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I never heard this story before, but it’s a very true story I noticed that right away

woorak teʔe coonį haga nąąxgųnį, nųnįge woorak hisgejaxjį hižą <> heguąną hopesįwį hegų

yes

hąhąʔą

the saying.... ahm... from the Indians that came before us (= our ancestors) our grandfathers the way they talked that’s what I recognized the language I sort of recognize it

hoʔera jaasge wąąkšik coowera jaane hicooke hįwahiiwira hitʼatʼairešųnųną heesge hegų žeesge <> yaagi hoitʼera yaaginįįsge

yes

hąą

from the start, a little boy, these children...ahm... however old he is, we don’t know that , when they made them do that

žee ceek honųwąk eeja tee hocįcįkižą, nįįkjąk nąąkre mąą jaanąhągišge hąke hįįpereswįnįgają heesge hii wagigiiresʼagi

I also heard that when they first made him fast

nįįšge nąąxgųšųnų žee ceek hąątaginąc wagigiiregi

when I was a little boy they used to make us do that, our grandfather towards half a day and we got there it was a big thing kind of like that that’s what he made us do

hįxųnųxjįįkregi eesge hii hįgigiirawišųnų hicooke haawira hąąp kiisak hipa hija hahiwigi hegų hegų wažą xetexjį heesge nįįsge haʔųwiže heesge nįįsge hįgigiwišųnų

he praised us he moved us (refering to the feeling) and he praised us

nįįkerewi hįruʔąwi hįrącącąkwi

it was something very good

wažą pįįxjį hižą heesge

ahm, we finished , he made us do this sort of thing

waišipwi heesge nįįsge hįgigiwišųnų

how many times this sort of story, that’s what they’re talking about that’s what they’re talking about

janąįxjįnągųnį heesge tee heesge ee woorak heesge hižą waganąąkają

yes

hąhą

the parents what they made these little ones do, this one that they mean / they’re meaning this one / the one they’re talking about

xʼookera xųnųįknąąkre jaasge wagigiiresʼagi tee tee hižą hižą waganąąkre

this boy what his father made him do / did to him I never heard that (= the story)

hocįcįįk teʔe hiʔąc hiigi jaasge gigigiži hegų hanąąxgųra kaga žeesge hanąąxgųnį

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and... he used bow and arrows and he whipped him with it and..

eegi mąącgura hireanąga mąąra, wiigiʔųanąga gipsįc, higipsįcanąga

yes

hąhą

and the fireplace, it says "where the middle of the house stands"

peec_hokerera cii hokisak honąžįra ee

yes

hąhą

he used ashes and he spit in his face / he spit ashes in his face, he did that to him

raaxoc hiʔųanąga hišjaroošoo žeesge gigi

this boy felt very sorry for himself his heart ached, he did that

hocįcįįkjaane hegų nąąc_hokijąxjį nąącgera kiiteekjį heesge hegų hii

yes

hąą

they also made me do that, I was about twelve when they did that to me

nįįšge eesge hįgigiirera eejaxjį mąą nųųpašąną hanį waįgiʔųire

hmm

hą

I threw away the little boy / I left the little boy they did that to me, when I became a man

nįįšge eeja nįįkjąkra nįge waatʼųteanąga wąągajijera eeja waįgiʔųire

It did that four days and four nights, they didn’t give me food and they blackened my face

žeešge hegų hąąp joopahą hąąhe joopahą heesge haa hąkešge waruc hųųkʼųiranį hišjara seep wįįranąga

where I was going to fast there they took me there and that’s all

hacįįja hąątaginaįcį eegi eeja hįkere hahiireanąga hegų

I knew they were watching me (but)

hegų hįwesįwįnąąkre yaaperesnųnįge žeegų

they were watching over me

hiraįkara waʔųnąąkają

yes

hąhąʔą

yes

hąhąʔą

I went through that, grandfather used to tell me stories toward that/there

yaa žeesge waagiwe cooka eešge woįgirakšųnų; žee hapahi eeja hapahi

he was telling me things like that

waanąkre hegų hegų wažą hesgešgenįsge

these spirits he called their names / who the different spirits are / the also mentioned them there they are in charge of things

waxopįnįnąąkre hegų nįįšge warac wažą hirukąną waʔųnąąkają

yaa

yaa

he used to tell me stories

teešge woįgirakšųnųra hegų

I’ve forgotten them all already

hanąąc waakikųnųnį gįnį

hmm

hmm

he didn’t go home / he’s never going to go back home

eegi žee hąkaga cii eeja gii kaga giinįkjene heesge

he made his thinking that way

wiiwewįra karagi

yes, it makes one do that

hąhą eesge heesge wahii

because his heart was aching for himself

eesge nąącgera kiiteekjįge

what

tee jaagu

he went to the wilderness

gixara howare

you’d be thinking "why are they doing this to me" / you wondered why they’d done this to you

tee jaagu waįgiʔųiregųnį hiraranąšge

yes

yaa

when he did that, as he was going along, the spirits blessed him

žeesge hiigiži ųąkʼų nąąc_hojąireže waxopįnį waracirera

they told him everything

wažąra hanąąc hogiragireže

he’s telling it that way this

žeegų horakąkają tee

yes

hąąhą

yaa, as for myself at first the old man used to tell me this, and

yaa, tee neegi nee waʔųnąąkre tee tee coonįxjį nįįsge eegi wąąknųįk heesgešge hįįkaragišųnų hegų

and if you are going to fast they notice you, that’s the way it is

teegi hąątaraginącikjenegiži honįwesįwįireanąga hegų here

a lot of them tried but failed to do so

roohą heesge hiinąʔįiregają rušʔakire

they couldn’t do anything, (and)

hąke waruxurukiranįanąga hegų

but my brothers they came along and said that

nųnįge ee waakįnųp waanįra heesgešge aajiire

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these that pray to the spirits when they’re first going to do something when at first they came here

hegų waxopįnį gikarac nąąkre coonįxjį wažą eeja ųįrekjenegiži ceekjį nįįsge eegi hajiiregają

and these clan members everything their grandfathers at first this also when they talked about these doings they said this

eegi wookiikaracnąąkre wažąra hanąąc hegų hicookeįk wahiirera ceekjį tee heesgešge woošgą tee eegi haʔehiiregają tee waire

there they stood in the middle of the house they blackened themselves they died of hunger and they died of thirst they said

tee eegi ciokisak honąžįire anąga hoisep hikikųireanąga eeja tookewehi_tʼekinąąkre iiwus hitʼekįį aire

they mean that, when they say fasting

eesge waganąąkšąną hąątaginąc aanąągre

yes

hąhą

if they do exactly what they did and if they are real good, if they’re really something (good) , the great spirit will talk to them

teesge hiiregiži eegi jaasgexjį nįįsge hiiregiži hegų pįįxjį waʔųnąąkiži wažąxjį waʔųnąąkiži waxopįnį xetera wookarakitʼekjene

we were blessed with all these stories

wažą eegi woorak nąącwirojąkjene

and here again when they said something to me we’re not in charge of anything on this earth we never do that

hegų tee eegi žige wažą eegi hįįkaragairera tee hąke mąąregi hąke wažą hįįrukąną hįyaʔųanąkwigi kaga eesge higi hįyaʔųąnąkwinį

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and they said again and...

žige žige aireanąga

again here, as you’re living on this earth, when you get to the end of the road (=life), where ever you’re going to go, the doings, they’re not self-taught

žige tee eegi eegi šʔųųšąnąkają eegi nąągu hožejąija rahigiži hegų eeja eeja hacįįja howašerekjenegi eeja eeja (hąke) hąke eeja woošgą eeja wažą eeja kiigųs woošgąija herenį hegų

and you will set foot on this road / you are going to walk this road

žige eeja nąąguižą eejašge horaijekjene

my parents talked to them ( the spirits?( his brothers)?)

eesge hegų šʔaak wahaara eegi wookarakitʼaireanąga

when they first talk about this they’re talking about a child and a man / they’re talking about a man-child(?)

eegi ceekjįnįįsge eegi jaaguxjį nįįsge eegi aanąąkre eegi eegi nįįkjąkižą eegi waganąąkšąną wąąkižą waganąąkšąną

the one that’s here saying this, one time when he did this they did it to him

eegi eegi higenąąkre wahanąkšąną hagoreižąšge heesge hiigi ųųgigiireanąga eegi

here a little while ago we talked to our parents and we said this long time ago we didn’t do that

eegi hojišąnąnįįsge eegi eegi šʔaak wahaara eegi waakarakitʼawi anąga heesge hihawigają hegų eegi sʼiirejąxjį hąkešge eesge haawinį

but they said we must try

nųnįge eegi yaakʼųkjakjawi heesge aire

and the great spirit, whatever (one) is here, whatever is doing this, he named that for us and it’s still the same

hegų eegi waxopįnį xetera higinąąkre hegų jaagu woošgąižą hįgiracwira hegų heesge aakšąną

and we can give it this name and he knows this

eegi žige wooracąkre hegų hųųkʼųwiną heesge hiperesnąkšąną

he knows it’s going to be this way

teesgekjenera

if it’s going to be this way and my dad he called him rainbow, and he called me the same, perhaps again here we are doing this fasting

teesgekjanahegiži hegų hegų jaaji eera Wiipamąkerega yaakaragegają eesge hįįkarage koreesgešge žige eegi hąątaginąc hiʔųąjaawiną

and that’s what he told me and I tought about it and I wanted to do it, but but I was busy doing something else

hegų heesge hįįkarage žeegų peewįanąga haʔų raagų nųnįge hegų hegų goišip wažą hijąhį hoišą hanįhe

but if I don’t do it and my relatives don’t do this we’re going to lose everything

nųnįge hąke eesge haanįgiži hegų wažą wahaarašge hąke eesge hiiranįgiži wažą hanąąc hegų xawanį hįhiikjanawi

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we have lost a lot of things

wažąra roohąxjį xawanį_hįhii hįaʔųanąkwi

and in this story, he was saying this to this child

tee woorak teʔe tee nįįkjąkįkra wookarakitʼe anąga wahanąkšąną

what he did to/for you he was talking to his child

jaagu nįgiʔųra horaknąkšąną nįįkjąkįk wookarakitʼe wahanąkšąną

these different boys what they’re going to do whatever they hear, that’s all

eegi hanąąc wąąknąąkre hijąhįnįsge jaagu ųįrekjenegi, jaagu nąąxgųiregi hegų kiira tee

and this story here, it’s not just one story, this man is teaching his child

woorak tee eegi hąke hąke teʔe hegų woorak hižąkiiraxjį nįįsge tee hižą wąąkižą nįįkjąkįkra hižą wookarakitʼe waʔųnąkšąną

this I’ve heard, that’s all I’m going to say

eegi teesge nąąxgų, hegų kiiranįįsge hihekjene

hmmm

hmmʔhmʔhm

there are a lot of good things, and if someone hears this, it can wake him up (make him think about this)

wažą pįįra roohąxjį žige hižą tee nąąxgųnąki heesge hoixįkną eesge

gu, if we just hear a tiny part of this, it gives one strength

gu! hirupįjįkišge aire gu, hįnąxgųwįrašąną hirešge himąšjaįsge

yes

hąhą