T28

What is your name, Lady ?

taa piti píjare meme ?

My name is Vidalia Maza.

nuti nkíjare Vidalia Maza .

What is your name, Sir ?

taa piti píjare tata ?

My name is Eduardo Semo, I am the Lady Panchita's friend.

nuti nkíjare Eduardo Semo , semnaksare veno Panchita

What are we going to talk about ? | De que vamos a conversar ?

taa to vechjirisꞌoyre ?

We are discussing, she visits us today, she visits us.

eto vechjirikwooꞌi juiti esu , timoriko vyeꞌe , timoriko .

She came tonight, but I don’t know what time it is, maybe it’s eight o'clock, what time will it be ?

tyuteko pjuena yoti , pero tajpopka ora , ochopopka que hora sera pues ?

What time will it be ?

tajpopkaro orariꞌi ?

I am going to talk about my oxen, I work with the cart.

nuti nechjisꞌoyre to nwíyera , nuti nkemtone te kareta .

I scare my oxen away saying "jiyojiyowotsja" while going on the path (to drive the oxen), I go with my children, the little ones.

nejroko to nwíyera " jiyojiyowotsja " nkepriꞌi te to ꞌchene nkochane no nchichanoviono , ꞌchiꞌchoꞌgirano

I go to look for wood, or I carry soil, I carry bricks, I carry um... sand, I carry soil.

nyono nnériko , o nyerepareko móteji , nyerekowo rawriyu , nyerekowo manjeꞌe tawóparu , nyerepareko móteji .

When their oxen have no more strength, she hit them with a stick.

te wipo ꞌtumena to swíyera sepchikpo te wkugi .

The oxen scream, they say "eee"

tpioorikpo to wiye " eee ..." takepo

The Lady get angry and after she can't overcome her oxen.

tsemopo esu su veno takepo wipo smuítaka to wiye

This is my work these days,

eto nemtone nuti jmuena sachono

and now I let them rest, my oxen,

ene juiti , nkonarakpo to nwiyerano ,

and I go to work in the boarding school, I cook bread on monday, wednesday and friday.

nyompo te to internado nepiareko to panu to ... to sachono , runesi , mieekuresi , vieenesi .

On Sunday, at midday, I go to cook and make almuerzo (using Sp. Word for 'lunch')

to rominko , tuprigi nyompo nkometsi nnoko to almuerzo .

That's it, Lady Panchita.

eto jmakni meme Panchita .

One must say "I am making food" (using a Trinitario word).

" nnoko to cheruji " takoꞌe

But I said "I am cooking" (using a Trinitario word).

etoriptse " nkometsi " nkeeꞌi

but she is speaking in Spanish

eto , pero , esta hablando castellano

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" nnoko to cheruji "

“I make food”

" nnoko to cheruji "

You said like this.

pitiyo piti ene pkeeꞌi .

You speak Spanish, you are used to speaking in Spanish.

pkomeriiꞌi piti taetnaripo to pkómeri .

That's my work.

eto jmakni to nemtoneriꞌi .

But that's good, it (talking about how to say "I make food" ?) made you laugh Lady, isn't it ? (to Francisca)

tyuri etoriptsero pekowripo meme ene ?

Your way of thinking is good, Lady Panchita.

tyurikokre eto , to ponreru meme , meme Panchita .

It's good that you are happy to visit (PREP) our house at this time, at eight o'clock in the evening, at eight o'clock in the evening. What day is today ? Thursday ?

tyurikokre piuusamre pimoriko te ypeno pjuena orariꞌi manjeꞌe la ochoyoti , la ochoyoti pjuena taa juiti @ jueve @ juevesi ?

Friday.

vieenesi

Friday, today is friday, this evening you came to visit (PREP) us, Lady. That's good, isn't it ?

vierne , vierne juiti , pjuena yoti pimorikriꞌi vyeꞌe meme ; tyuri ene ?

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And right now you came to visit us, the others persons who were used to always visit us don't come anymore, only you came to visit us here in our home.

nkeeꞌi ene jpuemmawo piti pchimrachovi , no pomri ꞌchañono tyutekraꞌono te pjoka najina pkejworichu piti piutekriꞌi pchimrachovi te pjoka ipeno .

We are happy that you talk with our children,

pkuusamrechovi pechjirikwo naeꞌ no nchichanoviono

and you ask them if they know (how to speak) my language (Trinitario), that's what you asked my children.

ene pyoseriko to naetkopka to nechjiriiwo , etopo pyoseriko no nchichanoviono

and recently, the past year, you came here

puemmawriꞌi to ene piutekriꞌi pjoñgi ponaworeni añini .

and I didn't know you (we didn’t meet) yet

( wone ) wichꞌo to naemotviiꞌi

And now you come again, I have known you when you brought our picture.

ene juiti piutekwore nimotvipo te piompo to vyeꞌono foto

and there was this Sir's son-in-law, whom you took a picture of

ene eñjooꞌi pñiñgi pona ñichina , pñigia pona viya , pveꞌpo to ñiyeꞌe foto .

and now you brought it, we saw it

ene juiti piompo vimꞌopo juiti eñi .

This Sir's son-in-law is living in San Ignacio.

ñichina pñigia pona viya tkowsa te SaInasio eñi .

He is called José, Mendes is his name.

pñiñgi tkíjare José , Mende ñíjare eñi .

This Sir's son-in-law, her daughter's husband, my stepchild.

ñichina pñigia pona viya , saema su ñichicha , su nchicharape nuti .

What else ? I don't know what to say anymore.

tajpo pona @ wipo naetkowroꞌo

And what about your work, Sir ?

ene to pemtone , tata ?

my work... I work... today I went to clear off my field.

ee ... to nemtone te... nuti nkemtone ... juiti nyono nnoko to nesavijriko to nésane

And I sowed the grass that my oxen will eat.

ene nsukcho to muiji tanisꞌoyre to nwíyera .

I am helping them so that they eat grass.

nimkatako to tanikyore muiji .

There is no more grass here.

tajinapo muijina te pjoka .

It is only forest, creeper, the cows, the oxen, don't eat anymore.

ꞌmuirijipo smeno , epre , wipo tanigia to waka , to wiye .

And can you explain me how do you manipulate the oxen ?

tajinapo muijina .

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Y me puede contar de como se manejan los bueyes?

Oh, yes. Let's see. Let's see, say it (asking the man for explain it).

aaa si , a ver piti ; niiꞌa pnoka .

We hobble like this, we yoke them, we tie them.

eto to ymaneꞌacho vyuwochopo wchumsikpo

That's it.

etoro jeꞌe

The oxen pull the cart on the path.

tchuukoopo to kareta to wiyono te to ꞌchene

That's what she wants (to know).

etoro pjokro swooꞌooꞌi esu .

That's what you do when you work with the cart, right ?

etoro pnokapo piti pkemtone to ... te to pkáreta ene piti ?

And how the lady talks, manipulates, it is not like that (it’s not the good way to do it).

esupo su veno porke esu techjirikwo smanejacho , manjeꞌe wo en takꞌe .

The Lady made me forget, and she is used to speaking in Spanish.

nemtisko sjicho su veno ene @ taetnapo esu tkomeri esu ene ...

It is you who speaks Spanish.

pitiyo piti pkomeri

and I say in a good way when I bring the oxen, they arrived, she took them out, she yoked them, she put the leather, her hoe, her pickaxe, she went to dig the soil.

ene jeꞌchu ene to nechjiriiwo nuti , te nvejnopo to wiye , titekpopo , sveꞌpo esu nyuwochopo , nnokpo to prumo , to syeꞌe lampa , syeꞌe asadón , tyompo tsekpueriko to móteji .

She took off soil, she threw it in the cart.

sveꞌpo to móteji seprakpo te kareta .

"sa sa sa sa stop!" she said to the oxen, you know, your turn.

" sa sa sa sa pichigia " sjichpo to wiye , pechopo , pítipo .

But I said like this earlier.

etoripo ꞌchogne eneripo nkeeꞌi

Your work takes a long time, we were afraid, isn't it ?

tsikurichꞌo to pemtone , etochu vitjiwo , tkuti ... tkuti to tkooyokowriꞌi to po ... tajichriꞌi ene ?

It's a hard work (lit. there is a lot of work).

etoro eto ; movera to vemtone .

We are not able to discuss anymore.

wipo vaetkowroꞌo to vechjisꞌa

We are not able to discuss anymore.

wipo vaetkowroꞌo to vechjisꞌa

And how do we manage it when there is not this (the recorder) ?

ene vitkowo te to tajina pjoka ene ?

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It seems it scared us, in't it ?

kuti to tkooyokovi como será ?

That's it, whenever we discuss (whatever we discuss about), we are scared.

to ... tajpuka to vechjisꞌaaꞌi ypikokwo

We are scared.

vyoyokriꞌi

This (to discuss with the recorder beside us) scared us, because this is good (she is good ?) and she is alone. (meaning ?)

vyoyokriꞌi pjoka jicho ene @ tyuuna komo skejwosjiiꞌi esu .

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This lady is listening to us, this Lady Panchita is laughing at us (in a nice way), doesn't she ?

esu psuka veno , tsamowriꞌi veno Panchita esu tekowriꞌi esu ene ?

We are also laughing at her (lit. She is also making us laugh (of her))

viomuire vekowriꞌi sjicho

We also laugh, we are happy, because we laugh about what we don't know

vekowriꞌi viomuire , viuusamre , porke vkekoro to wo vitka ene ?

You too Isabel, come to talk

pítipo Isabel , yare pechjigia piomuire .

You turn Isabel

pítipo Isabel

Talk about your studies

pechjisꞌa to pyeꞌe estudio , piarawoꞌu takepka

Because we are use to speaking in Spanish like these men (the 'carayanas'?) (lit. used to copy these men)

etoro techrarichu to yponoko pnoñono ene ?

Come here Isabel.

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