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Then
of
course
you've
got
to
squat
the
wagon
up
n
just
give'em
a
tap
on
the
nose
or
something
make'em
get
back
n
they'd
stand
up
again
Mm
Oh
no,
uh,
when
you
got'em
in
at
night,
you'd
just
give'em
what
they'd
They
may
have
been
allowed
some
roots
ground
up
like,
and
some
hay,
straw,
whatnot.
We
never
used
to
groom'em
and
that
like
horses.
Oh
yes,
yes.
Well
when
you
went
in
with
a
horse,
you
see,
he
was
all
sweating,
you
couldn't
clean
him,
not
then
you
know,
you'd
got
other
jobs
to
do.
Cut
his
chaff
up
and
get
his
litter
and
his
hay
and
one
thing
and
the
other,
and...
Bit
of
time
perhaps
you'd
done
that,
he
might
be
dried
up
a
bit
so's
you
could
clean
him
up
a
bit.
We
used
to
go
back
after
tea
after
we'd
had
our
tea
and
do
that
generally.
'Cause
they
would
be
dry
then.
Hm.
Oh
there
was
a
lot
of
work
with
a
team
of
horses.
You
was
never
done.
Five
o'clock,
half
past
four,
five
o'clock
in
the
morning
you'd
got
to
get
there
and
feed'em.
Yeah.
Well
no,
when
you
put'em
in
the
yard,
what
I
mean
to
say,
you
went
away
and
left'em.
You
didn't
have
to
go
back
or
anything.
Oh
no,
it
was
easier
life,
really,
with
oxen.
Hm.
[INTERVIEWER]
Oh
no,
we
never
used
to
bother
about
that,
no.
Used
to,
you
know,
give'em
what
they've
got
to
d--
have
[UNCLEAR]
way
before
we
went
home,
and,
Well
you
used
to
get
there
in
the
morning,
'course,
go
down
about
six
o'clock,
and
give'em
a
bit
of
grub,
chuck'em
in
a
bit
of
grub,
before
they
went
out.
They
used
to
have
to
get
out
about
seven
o'clock,
same
as
the
rest.
Yes,
they
used
to
get
pretty
tired
by
the
time
night
come.
If
they
got
too
out
of
breath,
'cause
they'd
always
hang
their
tongue
out,
when
they
was
out
of
breath.
Always
have
to
turn'em
round,
head
to
the
wind
and...
[INTERVIEWER]
What,
what,
What,
what
Oh
they
used
to
do
any
job
on
the
farm,
oh
yes,
ploughing,
harrowing,
and
they
used
to
use'em
for
harvesting,
picking
up
the
corn.
Used
to
have
their
wagon
and
uh,
the
carts
and
wagons
was,
uh,
made
like
that,
but
you
could,
uh,
'cause
you've
got
to
have
a
pole
on
a
wagon,
you
see,
when
they
drawed
it,
they
used
to
just
take
the
shafts
off
and,
and
put
the
pole
on
and,
uh,
They
never
had
any
harness
on,
they
just
had
yoke
and
a
bow
stuffed
up
through
it,
that's
all
the
harness
ever
they
had.
And
a
chain
right
up
through
the
middle
of'em,
when
you
had
a
full
team,
they
was,
one
pair
was
hooked
on
to
the
other.
Hm.
No,
they
was
hard
old
times,
but
they
was
peaceful.
That's
one
thing
about
it.
I
remember
when
I
was
a
boy,
some
one
time
Mother
used
to
take
us
to
church
Sunday
In
Benenden
church,
the
belfry
was
all
open
at
the
front,
you
could
see
the
men
up
there
pulling
the
ropes,
and
I
was
fascinated
with
And
I
used
to
watch
these
men
keep
pulling
all
on
these
ropes,
and
I
could
keep
hearing
one
of'em
say
something.
And
Mother,
she
used
to
keep
giving
me
a
nudge
to
sit
round
and
behave
miself,
but
I
felt
as
if
I
must
turn
round
and
have
a
look
at
them
bell
ringers
up
there.
Well
that
went
on
and
I
grew
up
I
thought
to
myself
Oh
I
don't
know
I'd
like
to
have
a
go
at
that
And,
uh,
when
I
was
at
Benenden,
so
happened
that
the
old
ringers
they
got
pretty
lapped
and
didn't
do
it
very
well,
and
the
church
wardens,
they
turned'em
out,
and
they
said
they'd
have
a
young
Aw,
they
called
a
meeting,
and
I
went
up
to
this
meeting.
And
there
was
all
the,
uh,
sides
men
there
and
one
thing
and
the
other,
and
all
these
big
nobs
of
the
we
was
all
en
<<wip>>
listed
like
soldiers
and
as
far
as
I
know
my
name
is
still
up
in
Benenden
belfry
It
was
up
in
there
a
few
years
back,
when
some
of
our
people
paid
a
visit
over
there.
Well
I
started
doing
this
here
bell
There
was
a
man
by
the
name
of
Conell,
he
volunteered
to
learn
and
we
went
up
in
the
belfry
one
night,
and
in
those
days
there
was
no
electric
light,
it
was
candles.
And
big
old
candle
thing
hung
up
in
the
middle
of
the
Got,
oh,
I
don't
know,
eight
or
ten
candles
on
it
perhaps.
And,
uh,
we
went
up
there
several
times
and
we
got
to
handle
the
bell
ourselves
and...
He
got
us
all
in
there
one
night,
the
bells
was
all
tied
up.
The
clappers
was
tied
up.
There
wadn't
no
noise
outside,
and
we
was
all
pulling
these
ropes
n
kept
going
to
first
one
Pull
a
little
harder
you
wed--,
lots
of
weddings
I
rung
for
and
I
[UNCLEAR]
for
funerals
and
so
They
was
a
lovely
old
peal
of
bells
up
there
one
time,
but
I
don't
think
they're
quite
so
nice
They've
had'em
renovated,
and
they've
run'em
the
opposite
way
and
they've
lowered'em
and
one
thing
and
the
other,
but,
I
don't
go
up
there,
I
thought
sometimes
I
might
go
up
there
and
see
what
they're
like,
but...
Yeah,
yeah.
Years
ago
our
schoolmaster,
when
I
went
to
school
under
old
Mr
Gardener
at
Benenden,
he
was
our
schoolmaster,
and
he
was
also
choirmaster,
and
he
was
very
Didn't
matter
whether
you
was
in
the
choir
or
whether
you
was
at
school,
but
he
was
a
good
schoolmaster.
But
anyhow,
uh,
you
had
to
behave
yourself
and
do
as
you
was
told,
and
I
remember
on
several
occasions
I
used
to
have
to
pump
the
organ
for
him
when
he,
'cause
he
always
used
to
play
the
Used
to
pump
the
organ
for
these
services,
and
weddings
and
that.
Yeah.
In
those
days,
Benenden
was
well
looked
after
by
the
Earl
The
bells,
if
ever
they
wanted
new
ropes
or
anything
done
to'em,
they
always
used
to
foot
the
bill.
They
was
all
in
pretty
good
fettle.
Yeah.
Yeah,
yeah.
Yeah,
'cause
when
I
got
older
we
used
to
have
to
attend
church
and
that,
and
our
old
vicar,
old
George
Dolben,
If
you
didn't
put
in
your
attendance
now
and
again,
he
begun
to
want
to
know
why
it
was,
but...
Every
day
we
used
to,
every
year
we
used
to
have
a
day
off
and
go
up
into
Hemsted
Park
and
have
our
sports
up
Used
to
all
march
up
there,
all
the
schools,
you
know,
like
a
lot
of
soldiers,
and
we
used
to
have
a
good
day
up
there,
swings
in
the
trees,
and
had
a
go
on
the
old
wooden
horse
if
you
could
get
across
him.
There
was
a
prize,
but
he
used
to
spin
round
and
throw
you
off
pretty
often,
long
before
you
got
across
him.
Still
they
was
nice
old
days,
we
enjoyed
it.
Yeah.
I
remember
when
I
was
at
school
during
the
South
African
war,
every
time
there
was
a
victory,
they
took
a
place,
we
used
to
get
half
a
day's
We
was
rather
amused
about
that.
Same
as
when
Mafeking
was
relieved,
you
know,
when
they
was
all
penned
up
for
a
long
time
and
couldn't
get
out,
when
that
was
relieved
we
got
half
a
day's
holiday
for
that.
Used
to
stick
the
flags
up
in
the
trees
and
on
the
church
tower,
oh ,
it
was
a
do
you
know
in
those
days.
That
was--
some
were
wonderful.
Yes
I
can
remember
right
back,
well
some
of
Queen
Victoria's
reign.
I
remember
on
her
jubilee
we
was
all
given
a
tea
on
the
village
green
there
at
The
tables
was
all
set
out
and
all
the
nice
things
on'em.
Things
on'em
that
I
never
saw
at
home.
However
they
sat
me
beside
a
young
girl
by
the
name
Well
we
could
never
get
on
much,
I
don't
know
quite
why
that
was,
but
anyway
I
remember
her
and
I
got
fighting
at
this
here
tea
party
and
I
knocked
her
off
the
Well
that
wasn't
long
before
someone
grabbed
hold
of
me
and
called
me
to
order,
you
know.
That
was
at
Queen
Victoria's
jubilee.
Yes,
all
these
little
things
they
crop
up
during
your
old,
elderly
life,
you
know,
you
think
about'em.
Still,
we
never
attacked
anybody
with
knives
or
bicycle
chains
or
anything
that,
there
was
never
any
thing
of
that,
not
in
those
days.
Oh,
it
was
very
very
seldom
that
you
heard
about
a
murder.
Well,
everybody
was
afraid
to
kill
somebody
else
because
they
knowed
they'd
got,
get
killed
theirselves.
But
nowadays
it
don't
matter
does
it
They
don't
bother.
[INTERVIEWER]
I
didn't
quite
get
s--,
what
you
said.
[INTERVIEWER]
Yes.
Well,
old
Mr
Newman
at
Sissinghurst
Castle
now,
what
used
to
run
the
farm
before
Chopman
took
it
on,
he'd
always
gived
his
men
their
day's
pay
Good
Friday,
or
any
other
day
like
that,
If
they
didn't
go
to
church
he
never
gave'em
their
money.
Now
some
of'em,
they
liked
to
get
out
in
the
garden,
you
see,
but
they
could
if,
providing
they
went
to
church
first.
Yes.
Oh
a
lot
of
these
farmers,
they
was
very
particular
about
anything
like--
Now
as
regards
voting,
you
know,
if
there
was
an,
an
election.
'Course
he
naturally
would
be
a
Conservative,
and
that
is
the
way
those
men
had
to
vote.
If
they
knew
they'd
voted
any
other
way
they
would
sack'em
you
know,
oh
yes.
They
was
all
browbeaten
in
those
days,
all
the
workmen.
You'd
You'd,
you
had
to
vote
the
same
way
as
your
employer
whether
you
agreed
with
it
or
Well,
I
don't
know
what
my
father
done,
but
I
always,
you
know,
thought
he
voted
Tory,
and
that's
what
I've
always
done.
I
always
think
we're
better
off,
we
was
better
off
under
Tory
government.
It
was
more
stable.
[INTERVIEWER]
Well
he,
he
wouldn't,
but
some
of'em,
they
got
means
of
finding
out,
you
know.
I
don't
know
how
they
did.
But,
uh,
he
shouldn't
know,
should
he
Now
I
dare
say
perhaps
there
was
a
lot
of'em
didn't
vote
the
same
way.
Years
ago,
when
the
Liberals
was
in,
I
always
thought
that,
you
know,
the
Liberals,
they
was,
you
know,
about
as
good
as
anything,
for
the
working
man
especially.
It
was
old
Lloyd
George
that
pulled
the
working
man
out
of
the
he
was
the
first
man
that
got
us
half
a
day
on
the
farm
and,
and
got
our
money
raised
up
a
bit,
when
he
was
in
power.
One
of
the
finest
statesmen
Britain's
ever
had,
he
was,
old
He,
he
knew
what
he
was
talking
about.
[INTERVIEWER]
No,
no.
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