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[INTERVIEWER]
****
So
you
were
saying,
****
you
were
born
in
Moreleigh?
****
I
was
born
in
Moreleigh,
****
I
moved
to
Churston
****
when
I
was
nine
year
old,
****
I
must
have
liked
****
singing
****
because
I
was
in
the
choir
at
Moreleigh.
****
And
****
when
we
left
Moreleigh,
****
the
priest
there
gave
mi
mother
a
letter
****
to
give
to
the
priest
up
here.
****
Well
we
moved
up
here
in
November
****
and
uh,
we
carried
on
through
the
winter
****
before
any
member
of
the
church
came
****
to
visit
us.
****
One
day
the
curate
came
****
--
he
was
riding
a
****
bike
--
he
came
up
****
to
Holston,
where
we
****
were
living.
The
****
first
thing
****
she
****
did
was
to
give
him
****
this
letter
****
which
said
I
had
been
in
****
the
choir;
so
I
had
****
to
****
go
and
join
the
choir
at
****
Churston,
nineteen
hundred
and
ten.
I've
****
been
singing
****
****
And
uh,
I
went
to
the
village
school
at
****
Churston,
that
was
on
****
Churston
Cross,
that's
a
****
dwelling
place
now,
they've
turned
the
old
****
But
uh
****
when
we
talk
about
Churston
****
Ferrers,
the
parish
consisted
of
Churston
and
****
The
Churston
side
was
owned
by
Lord
****
Churston,
and
the
Galmpton
****
side,
when
I
can
****
remember,
was
owned
by
the
****
Well,
the
two
villages
used
to
get
on
very
well
together,
****
but
the
Galmpton
people,
****
if
they
wanted
****
to
go
to
church,
****
they
had
to
come
to
Churston.
****
There
was
a
chapel
in
Galmpton,
****
but
uh,
****
when
you
talk
of
Churston
****
Ferrers
you've
got
to
bring
in
Galmpton
as
[INTERVIEWER]
Yes.
****
I've
beaten
the
bounds
on
two
occasions,
****
but
now
everything
has
been
altered.
****
The
uh,
Churston
has
been
included
in
the
Furzeham
with
Brixham,
****
Ward;
and
Galmpton
is
the
same
except
for
a
small
****
part
which
comes
under
the
****
Well,
I
didn't
care
about
these
alterations
in
the
first
place
****
because,
we
were,
used
to
a
parish
council
you
****
know
and
uh,
the
uh,
management
of
the
place
was
first
in
the
hands
of
the
****
parish
council
and
then
it
would
be
passed
on
to
****
But
we
used
to
have
some
uh,
good
times,
in,
****
the
parish
meeting
was
****
something
to
to
go
****
to,
'cause
you'd
hear
all
the
different
****
views
put
in
no
uncertain
****
But
****
when
the
change
came,
****
it
made,
put
an
end
to
all
that,
****
and
we
came
under
the
Torbay
Borough
****
now,
which
isn't
so
****
interesting,
we're
just
a
number
****
now,
pay
the
[INTERVIEWER]
****
Yeah,
that's
right.
****
But
I
must
say
****
that
****
what
they've
done
during
the
past
few
years
for
this
parish,
****
they've
made
some
great
improvements,
****
the
Windy
Corner
is
****
one
and
Churston
Railway
****
And
there
are
still
one
or
two
more
hiccups
****
that
they've
got
to
see
to
****
before
long,
****
where
that
serious
accident
was
a
fortnight
ago.
****
But
by
and
large
I
uh,
I'm
quite
satisfied
with
it
****
except
when
it
comes
to
****
dishing
out
for
the
rates.
[INTERVIEWER]
****
Yes,
I
should
say.
****
You
say
****
you
went
to
school
in
Churston,
at
the
day
****
school.
Do
you
remember
much
about
your
****
Oh,
I
do.
****
[INTERVIEWER]
****
Do
you?
Yes.
[INTERVIEWER]
****
Will
you
tell
me
about
them?
****
Well,
we
used
to
start
at
nine
in
the
morning,
****
and
****
when
the
bell
rang
****
we
all
had
to
go
in
****
and
****
hang
our
hats
up
in
the
porch,
****
and
we
really
had
a
really
good
schoolmaster,
a
Mr
****
He
was
also
the
church
****
warden
and
previous
to
that
he'd
been
the
organist.
Very
****
musical,
and
he'd
stand
no
****
nonsense.
I've
had
the
****
dust
beaten
out
of
my
coat
more
than
****
But
we
had
between
sixty
and
seventy
pupils
at
that
uh
school
****
then,
well
then
****
when
the
boys
got
to
the
age
of
standard
three
down
here
in
Galmpton,
****
they
had
to
come
to
Churston
****
school
because
down
here
there
was
a
woman
****
teacher
who
couldn't
handle
****
them,
so
they
had
to
come
to
****
Churston
school,
and
that
brought
the
numbers
up,
****
But
't
was
a
really
good
school
****
--
my
daughter
marvels
at
the
****
things
that
I
****
know
you
****
know
****
and
****
do,
which
they
don't
teach
in
schools
now
****
apparently,
she
was
talking
to
me
about
the
other
day
about
****
She
was
calling
them
shares,
and
not
uh,
parts,
****
but
uh,
I
went
on
there
****
until
I
was
thirteen,
****
I
was
thirteen
on
the
Thursday,
****
I
left
school
on
the
Friday,
****
mi
mother
took
me
on
the
Monday
up
across
some
fields
to
a
farm,
Lupton
****
Barton
and
I
was
a
farmer's
****
boy,
had
to
clean
the
****
farmhouse,
****
and
up
at
six
in
the
****
morning,
bring
in
the
****
cows
****
and
milk
****
and
I
was
getting
eighteen
pence
a
week,
****
I
don't
know
****
how
much
that
is
in
modern
money,
****
but
't
was
one
and
six
then
about
seven
pence
a
ha'penny,
wasn't
****
And
uh,
I
took
to
that,
farming,
****
and
I
stuck
it
for
two
years.
****
And
my
father
was
working
on
a
farm,
****
he
was
getting
fifteen
shillings
a
week.
****
And
he
says,
****
Giles,
you'll
be
getting
fifteen
shillings
a
week
****
if
you
stick
this,
****
so
I
said
to
mi
mother,
****
Could
I
uh,
learn
a
trade,
****
because
somebody'd
told
me
****
that
****
if
you
was
a
tradesman,
****
you
could
get
eighteen
shillings
and
a
pound
a
week.
****
So
I
went
back
to
the
farm,
****
left
her
****
to
do
****
what
she
could,
****
next
time
****
I
went
home,
****
she
said,
****
I
got
you
a
job,
in
a
shipyard,
****
building
ships.
****
I
said,
****
All
right,
that's
alright,
****
so
of
course
I
had
to
go
back
****
and
****
give
notice
to
the
boss,
****
I
was
getting
three
shillings
a
week
then
after
two
years.
****
And
I
said,
****
I'm
going
to
leave
at
the
end
of
the
month,
****
I've
got
another
job.
****
He
said,
****
You
can't
leave
me!
****
I
said,
****
Well
I'll
have
to
****
because
I've
promised
****
to
go
to
the
other
job.
****
I'll
double
your
money
****
if
you'll
stop
here!
****
I
said,
****
No
that
ain't
no
use
now,
****
and
that's
****
how
I
come
to
go
into
shipyard
****
--
but
I
was
never
happier
in
all
of
mi
****
working
days
than
when
I
was
up
amongst
****
Oh,
I,
I
could
get
a
pig
****
to
act
like
a
dog,
you
know!
****
And
uh,
never
no
money.
****
I
know
****
I
had
a
toothache
pretty
bad
one
Saturday,
****
and
I
used
to
take
the
milk
down
to
the
big
house,
****
which
was
Lupton
****
House,
twice
a
day,
mornings
and
****
And
this
particular
day
****
when
I
had
the
toothache
****
I
took
the
milk
down.
****
So
much
had
to
go
in
the
kitchen
****
and
so
much
had
to
go
in
the
still
****
I
went
in
the
still
room
with
the
****
milk,
and
the
still
room
maid
give
****
me
a
shilling.
What
****
't
was
for
****
I
don't
know.
Her
must
have
liked
the
look
of
****
Anyway,
Sunday
morning,
with
this
shilling,
I
went
to
****
Brixham
to
have
this
****
tooth
pulled
****
And
the
first
doctor
****
I
come
to
****
was
a
Doctor
Yerl,
and
****
--
F.
Bruce
****
Yerl,
I
don't
know
if
you've
read
****
any
of
his
books
but
he,
****
he've
written
several
books,
****
he
gave
up
doctoring
****
and
he
took
to
writing
books,
and
****
Anyway
he
said,
****
I
don't
pull
tooth
--
teeth
on
a
****
I
said,
****
Well
I
can't
come
any
other
time,
****
'cause
****
I
was
so,
so
busy
****
I
suppose
****
on
mi
job,
****
I
said,
****
I
can't
come
any
other
time.
****
Oh
well,
****
come
in.
****
I
went
in,
****
he
made
me
****
holler,
****
he
pulled
mi
tooth
out,
****
'way
goes
mi
shilling.
****
But
uh,
't
was
hard
life,
mind,
****
but
't
was
a
good
life,
****
and
****
being
among
the
animals
****
I
think
****
is,
was
****
what
took
my
liking.
****
All
the
young
calves
coming
in,
****
and
****
knew
their
mothers.
****
Well
****
after
I
left
that
farm,
****
a
farmer
down
Churston
****
Court,
that's
the
farmer
beside
the
****
church,
he
bought
one
of
they
****
cows,
when
this,
when
they
had
the
****
sale,
they
had
the
****
sale
just
after
I
****
left,
sold
****
And
I
had
a
day
off
from
mi
****
shipyard
building
to
****
go
****
up
and
see
the
end
****
of
it.
And
they
was
****
very
nice,
they
invited
me
in
****
to
dinner
and
I
got
****
Anyway,
this
farmer
bought
this
cow,
****
and
on
my
way
home
from
Brixham
up
the
back
way,
I
used
to
get
over
through
the
****
gap
****
and
walk
down
bi
the
****
railway
line
to
****
cut
off
going
down
and
around
****
And
I
was
going
down
through
this
field,
****
and
I
saw
this
cow,
****
and
I
spoke
to
her,
****
went
over
****
and
****
made
a
fuss
of
her,
****
do
you
know
she
followed
me
right
down
to
****
where
I
got
out
over
the
wall,
****
and,
that
was
the
end
of
that,
****
but,
't
was
remarkable
really,
[INTERVIEWER]
****
She
remembered
you.
****
Because
that
was
two
or
three
months
****
after
I'd
finished
with
them.
****
But
uh,
ship-wrighting,
that
was
hard
[UNCLEAR]
[INTERVIEWER]
****
You,
you
were
fifteen,
weren't
****
you,
when
you
went
to
the
****
shipwrights,
is
that
right,
****
fifteen.
Did
you
do
an
apprenticeship
****
there?
Did
you
have
to
do
an
****
Yes,
six
year,
seven
year.
[INTERVIEWER]
Really?
Seven
year.
****
But
I
didn't
do
seven
year,
****
because
I
was
over
twenty-one,
when,
****
anyway,
I
took
on
this
ship-wrighting,
****
we
used
to
get
elm
trees
****
in,
and
each
apprentice
had
to
serve
six
months
in
the
saw
pit,
you
know,
with
a
man
****
up
****
top
and,
saw
back
****
these
elms
because
their
steam
saw
wouldn't
****
cut
deep
enough
to
****
And
we
cut
two
seven-inch
slices
out
of
these
big
trees,
****
that
would
form
the
keel.
****
And
the
smaller
timbers
they
could
cut
out
with
the
steam
****
saw,
and
they
had
a
****
band
saw
to
cut
****
the
curves,
and,
we
built
****
I
could
uh,
go
through
the
list
of
them,
****
but
there's
no
point
****
in
****
taking
up
the
time.
****
Anyway,
one
day
there
was
a
fellow
****
driving
a
nail,
one
of
these
cut
cast
****
iron
nails,
and
he
didn't
enter
into
the
****
wood
properly
and
he'd
hit
at
it
with
****
the
hammer,
****
come
****
up
and
caught
me
in
****
And
I
lost
the
sight
of
mi
eye.
****
Well,
****
going
for
the
compensation,
****
one
of
the
questions
****
I
had
to
answer,
****
Could
I
earn
as
much
after
the
accident
****
as
I
could
****
before,
see
****
if
it
had
affected
mi
earnings.
****
Anyway
I
thought
****
't
was
no
good
****
asking
mi
employers
that,
****
because
they
were
sure
****
to
say
****
uh,
I
could.
****
****
Anyway,
Saturday
afternoon
I
went
down
the
river,
down
to
****
****
That's
****
where
the
Provident
was
built
****
and
I
saw
the
man
there
****
and
I
told
him
****
why
I'd
come,
****
I
said
****
I'd
lost
the
sight
of
an
eye,
****
would
you
pay
me
as
much
****
as
you
would
****
the
man
next
door,
****
he
said,
****
How
long
have
you
served,
****
I
said
Six
year.
****
I
said,
****
I've
got
another
year
****
to
go,
****
he
said,
****
Six
years,
that's
all
****
we
ask
****
our
boys
****
to
serve.
****
You
can
start
down
here
****
when
you
like,
****
so
I
went
back
****
and
****
give
a
week's
notice.
[INTERVIEWER]
****
So
you
left.
****
What
was
the
name
of
the
first
yard
****
that
****
you
worked
in?
Jackson.
[INTERVIEWER]
Jackson.
Jackson
and
****
Son,
Hugh
Jackson
and
****
Son.
****
And
I
left
them
****
and
went
down
with
Samwell,
and
we
built
uh,
three
ships
down
there,
and
a
big
yacht,
****
bigger
'an
any
other
****
****
It
was
for
the
Oars
Bank,
those
****
people,
called
the
****
She
was
built
of
all
teak,
teak
planking
and
****
teak
decks.
Must
have
cost
a
****
pretty
penny,
fastened
****
with
copper
fastening
and
****
uh,
the
last
I
****
heard
about
her
she
was
****
commandeered
in
war
to
carry
one
of
these
****
balloons
you
know,
to
keep
****
Anyway,
that
went
on
until
nineteen
****
twenty-six,
that
was
the
last
of
the
****
Then
I
had
to
get
another
job.
****
So
I
got
on
mi
bike,
****
and
****
went
in
Paignton,
Livermead
****
And
they
were
building
a,
an
extension
there,
****
so
I
went
in
****
and
****
saw
the
foreman,
****
I
said,
****
Do
you
want
a
carpenter?
****
He
said,
****
I
don't
know,
****
he
said,
****
I'll
let
you
****
know,
****
I've
got
one
Brixham
****
chap
working
in
****
here.
I'll
send
a
message
home
****
So
in
the
night
this
chap
called
on
me,
****
he
said,
****
You
can
start
in
there
in
the
morning.
****
Mi
tools
was
still
kept
in
the
keel.
****
So
I
got
a
hand-cart
****
and
****
went
down,
****
got
mi
keel,
****
put
mi
tool
box
on
the
****
ca--
cart,
took
it
back
****
to
Brixham,
and
I
was
in
****
there
ready
to
start
bi
****
Well
****
after
I've
started
****
I
said
to
the
foreman,
****
I
said,
****
Now
this
is
the
first
time
****
I've
worked
on
a
building
****
and
I
wouldn't
know
a
rafter
from
a
joist.
****
So
I
said,
****
You'll
have
to
keep
your
eye
on
me,
****
he
said,
****
I
will
that.
****
Well
I
worked
on
the,
during
the
week
****
and
the
end
of
the
week
he
come
to
me,
****
he
said,
****
I've
put
you
on
full
pay,
****
and
I
was
working
overtime,
****
so
I
was
doing
very
well.
****
'Course
eventually
****
--
it
was
a
****
Taunton
firm
--
eventually
the
job
came
****
to
an
end
and
****
And
they'd
just
started
****
to
build
the
old
part
of
the
Torbay
****
So
I
went
up
there,
****
I
saw
the
foreman,
****
I
said,
****
Do
you
want
a
carpenter?
****
Where
you
been
working?
****
I
told'en.
****
He
said,
First
****
to
get
paid
off?
****
I
said,
****
No,
nearly
the
last.
****
Well
he
said,
****
You
can
start
up
here
next
Monday,
****
and
****
if
you're
no
be
good
****
you
won't
be
here
long,
****
this
is
no
cottage,
****
he
said.
****
Well
I
used
to
cycle
from
Brixham
up
to
Torbay
Hospital
every
day
and
back
you
****
know,
took
no
notice
of
****
Anyway
I
was
there
for
about
two
year
and
a
half,
****
and
then
that
job
finished.
****
And
I
went
down
to
the
unemployment
****
exchange
****
and
signed
on,
as
a
****
carpenter,
and
the
man
in
the
exchange
knew
****
me,
well
he
knew
everybody
personally
then
in
those
****
He
said,
****
You're
a
shipwright
aren't
****
you?
I
****
said,
Yeah,
I
served
mi
time
at
****
it.
He
****
said,
Well,
Mr
Jackson
wants
some
shipwrights
****
down
there,
he
got
some
****
He
give
me
the
green
****
card,
he
****
said,
You
take
that
one
****
down
--
****
I
said,
He
won't
take
****
me
on,
because
I'd
[INTERVIEWER]
****
You'd
left.
Yeah.
****
Anyway
I
went
down
****
and
****
showed
him
the
green
****
card,
told
****
him
that
the
employment
exchange
had
sent
****
me
down.
Took
me
on,
and
another
****
chap,
****
shipwright,
that
was
on
****
And
we
were
doing
these
repairs
for
oh
nearly
a
month,
****
and
that
job
finished.
****
So
****
when
the
job
was
finished,
****
we
had
to
take
the
staging,
the
scaffolding
back
to
the
yard,
****
and
I
was
sculling
the
boat
out
with
all
this
gear
on,
****
and
Mr
Jackson
was
there
as
****
So
uh,
on
the
way
out
I
said,
****
I
never
had
any
papers
from
you,
****
to
say
****
that
I
worked
for
you
for
those
years.
****
He
said,
They
****
--
I
****
said,
They
won't
be
doing
you
any
****
So
he
went
out
his
house
****
and
****
got
the
money
****
to
pay
me
for
the,
up
to
date,
****
and
he
also
brought
this
paper,
****
still
got
it!
Yes.
****
And
I
carried
on
with
carpentry
until
nineteen
****
thirty-two,
and
I
got
out
of
work
in
****
January,
I
was
married
****
then,
had
two
****
And
uh,
I
said
to
the
wife,
****
I
shan't
get
another
job
now
****
until
the
fine
weather
comes.
****
So
uh,
I
went
down
the
printers,
****
I
got
some
postcards
****
printed,
****
to
say
****
that
uh
I
was
a
carpenter,
jobbing
carpenter,
general
repairs,
****
and
I
took
these
postcards
t'
the
parish,
****
that
was
all
growing
then,
you
know,
this
place
was,
****
some
big
houses
being
put
up.
****
Took
these
cards
around,
****
and
presently
they
began
****
to
drop
back
through
the
letter
****
box,
and
I
****
started,
****
that's
how
I
started
with
the,
mi
****
business,
I
carried
on
with
****
that
till
I
retired.
Carpenter
and
****
And
the
sore
thing
about
it
is,
****
when
I
see
these
young
boys,
you
know,
nothing
****
to
do
****
when
they
leave
school,
****
I
had
two
boys
****
come
to
me,
****
and
the
father
fixed
it
up
with
one,
****
and
the
other
one
come
on
his
own,
****
he
said,
****
Mr
Bland,
can
I
****
come
****
and
work
for
****
I
said,
****
Well,
I'll
see
your
father,
****
fix
it
up.
****
And
I
took
on
three
apprentices
at
one
time
and
another,
not
all
to
once.
****
But
each
one
of
those,
****
when
they
finished
with
me,
****
they
worked
on
their
own
****
and
they're
still
doing
it.
Yeah.
[INTERVIEWER]
****
So
you
set
them
up
then,
really.
****
Well,
that's
****
what
makes
you
****
feel
sorry
for
these
youngsters
today.
****
They
can't
go,
****
they
got
to
be
directed
to
a
job
now,
through
the
labour
****
And
it
dudd'nt
give
them
their
freedom,
****
but
I
think
****
I'd
overcome
that,
****
if
I
was
one
of
them.
[INTERVIEWER]
****
Yeah.
That's
right,
****
that's
right.
****
Going
back
to
your
shipbuilding
****
days,
when
you
first
started
with
****
Jackson's,
do
they--
how
many
apprentices
would
they
have
had
at
****
****
Oh,
about
--
well
the,
all
those
in
the
picture
I
****
suppose,
there
was
ten
or
a
doz--,
a
dozen
of
****
us
there.
And
there
was
****
no
men
because
they
was
all
gone
to
the
War,
[INTERVIEWER]
Of
course,
yeah.
****
We
weren't
old
enough
****
to
go
to
the
War,
****
and
uh,
I
think
****
that's
****
what
made
it
all
the
more
hard
work
for
us.
[INTERVIEWER]
****
Because
you
were
doing
men's
work
then,
as,
as
much
as
apprenticeship
Yes,
yes.
****
Y'see,
there's
nothing
on
the
straight
on
a
ship,
****
't
is
all
on
the
bevel
and
on
the
bend,
****
and
****
when
it
came
to
planking
****
--
you
****
know,
that's
the
outside
skin
of
the
****
ship
--
you
got
planks
two
inches
thick,
perhaps
six
or
seven
****
Well
they
wouldn't
bend
cold,
****
so
we
had
****
what
we
called
the
steam
****
kiln,
push'um
in
there
for
two
three
****
hours
****
and
steam
****
them,
take
them
****
out,
take
them
down
to
the
****
ship
****
and
put
them
****
around
--
but
when
you
was
carrying
them
on
your
shoulder,
****
you
know,
everybody
used
to
put
their
cap
on
****
their
shoulder
to
keep
****
us
from
****
being
scalded.
****
But
that's
how
they
were--
those
timbers
were
bent,
[INTERVIEWER]
****
I
see,
yeah.
With
steam.
[INTERVIEWER]
****
They
were
steamed.
****
And
uh,
they
were
taken
down
****
and
****
clamped
up
to
the
side
****
and
****
fastened.
****
And
uh,
then
you'd
get
ready
****
to
treat
more
planks
for
the
next
day,
****
and
****
get
them
all
ready
to,
****
because
the
edges
of
the
planks
weren't
square;
****
they
were
a
little
bit
bevelled
****
to
allow
for
the
caulking,
you
know
****
that
was
****
driving
in
the
oakum,
****
the
joint
would
be
v-shaped,
wider
on
the
outside
and
tight
on
the
inside.
****
And
that
was
your
caulking
****
space.
And
that
was
an
interesting
****
job,
but,
I
don't
****
know,
we
must
have
done
it
****
alright,
because
these
ships
are
still
on
the
[INTERVIEWER]
****
Yeah.
Yes,
that's
right,
yeah.
****
What
was,
what
do
you
mean
by
caulking?
****
What
do
you
mean
by
that?
****
Well,
I
don't
know
****
if
you've
ever
heard
of
the
term
picking
[INTERVIEWER]
No.
****
Well
they
used
to
do
it
in
Dartmoor
****
gaol,
they
used
to
get
****
rope
****
and
pick
it
all
to
****
pieces
to
make
it
like
****
cotton.
Well
that
would
be
[INTERVIEWER]
****
Oh,
I
see.
****
And
then
't
was
sold
to
the
shipyards
in
bales,
****
and
we'd
take
it
****
and
****
spread
it
on
our
knee
****
and
****
make
like
rope
of
it.
****
Well,
that
was
rammed
into
those
joints,
****
three
lots,
three,
you
know,
****
go
over
it
three
times.
****
And
the
last
one
would
be
drove
in
with
a,
****
what
we
called
a
hawsing
iron,
[INTERVIEWER]
****
A
what
iron?
A
what
iron?
****
Hawsing,
they,
haw--
hawsing,
h-a-w-s-i-n-g,
I
suppose
it's
[INTERVIEWER]
Hawsing.
Yeah,
yeah.
****
But
that
would
be
rammed
in,
one
without
the
iron
in
a
bridle,
****
and
the
other
would
come
along
with
a
****
pestle,
you
****
know,
that's
a
wooden,
big
wooden
****
mallet,
and
that'd
drive
it
****
And
then
it
would
be
filled
up
outside
with
either
red
lead
or
pitch.
****
That
made
them
water-tight.
****
But
uh,
I
was
down
Plymouth
one
day
****
and,
I
saw
the
first
ship
****
ever
I
worked
on,
****
called
the
Sea-Plane.
****
I
don't
know
****
what
part
of
Plymouth
it
was,
****
I
know
****
there
was
a
gas
works
****
near
and
the
Sea-Plane
was
there
bi
the
****
quay,
and
they'd
****
started
ripping
her
****
up
and
uh,
I
spoke
to
the
****
people
who
lived
near
that
****
place,
I
****
said,
I
****
see
they
breaking
up
the
Sea-Plane
over
****
He
said,
****
Yes,
they've
got
a
job
on
'en
too,
****
he
said
****
in
fact
they
used
dynamite
****
to
try
and
blow
up
the
pieces
up
there.
[INTERVIEWER]
****
Good
grief!
It
was
so
well
built
****
that
they
couldn't
break
it?
****
Yeah.
So
that,
that
was
the
end
of
the
Sea-Plane.
[INTERVIEWER]
****
Yeah,
yeah.
So
how
long
would
it
have
taken
then,
****
to
build
a
boat,
from
the
very
beginning
of
start
--
****
of
treating
the
****
timber
to
the
****
Well
that
would
all
depend
on
****
whether
the
boat
was
wanted
in
a
hurry.
****
But
uh,
****
give
us
about
six
to
nine
months
from
start
to
finish,
****
but
there
used
to
be
repair
****
jobs
come
****
They'd
come
in
on
the
beach
in
Brixham,
****
put
them
up
on
the
stocks
****
and
some
had
new
keels,
new
bottoms
you
know,
****
to,
****
been
on
the
rocks
****
and
****
had
to
have
new
planks.
****
But
****
if
there
wasn't
a
lot
of
that
****
done,
****
it
just
well
from
six
months
onwards,
you'd
get
a
new
boat.
[INTERVIEWER]
****
It's
not
long
is
it,
****
really,
considering
the
****
workmanship
that
went
into
the
No,
no.
[INTERVIEWER]
****
It's
not
long
at
all,
really.
****
Who
actually
would
be
ordering
the
boats
****
that
****
you
made,
****
would
they
all
be
privately
owned
****
or
would
they
have
been
owned
by
larger
companies?
No,
privately.
[INTERVIEWER]
Privately
owned?
****
Yeah.
Brian
Palin,
he
had
the
first
****
Provident,
well
she
got
lost
in
the
****
first
World
War,
you
know
submarines
used
****
to
****
come
up
and
put
a
****
bomb
****
on
them
and
--
give
****
the
crew
a
****
chance
to
get
****
Well,
Brian
was
without
a
ship
when,
end
of
the
War,
****
and
he
had
this
Provident
****
built
****
(unclear),
and
uh
he
didn't
have
her
very
****
long
because
the
fishing
industry
****
died
out
and
she
was
taken
over
privately
as
****
She'd
been
out
to
the
Mediterranean
****
and
then
****
travelled
around
a
bit,
****
and
she
came
back
here
****
and
eventually
she
was
taken
over
by
the
Maritime
****
Trust,
and
uh
they
sort
of
charter
her
out
to
the
Island
Sailing
****
My
daughter
went
for
a
fortnight's
trip
on
her
over
to
the
south
of
Ireland.
****
But
it
wasn't
no
holiday,
****
't
was
an
adventure.
[INTERVIEWER]
****
Yes
I'll
bet!
Yeah,
that's
right.
Yeah.
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