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jeju0168-01

Recording date2015-12-25
Speaker age80
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[1]
i t͡ɕali- t͡ɕalisʰtosʰekika musʰikə hən
This 't͡ɕalisʰtosʰeki/jalittoseki/자릿도세기', what is that?
i t͡ɕali- t͡ɕalisʰtosʰekika musʰikə hən kə
[2]
t͡ɕalisʰtosʰekien
You say that to an older piglet.
t͡ɕalisʰtosʰekien hən kənɨní tol- t͡ɕə t͡ɕuŋ tʷeat͡ɕisʰek͈i kɨ əlil t͈e pəsʰə nan kəsʰkola t͡ɕalisʰtosʰekien kontake
[3]
hən kənɨní tol t͡ɕə t͡ɕuŋ tʷeat͡ɕisʰek͈i əlil t͈e pəsʰə nan kəsʰkola t͡ɕalisʰtosʰekien kontake
[4]
əlil t͈e mʷisʰikə?
When what happens as a piglet?
əlil t͈e mʷisʰikə?
[5]
əli- **** əlil
Well you know that just when they're born they are as small as little puppies, right?
əli- əlil t͈enɨn mak kaŋat͡ɕisʰek͈imans͈ik hət͡ɕi aɲənia tʷet͡ɕisʰek͈i nakɨne kʰə- kɨmpaŋ nal t͈ɛn
[6]
t͈enɨn mak kaŋat͡ɕisʰek͈imans͈ik hət͡ɕi aɲənia tʷet͡ɕisʰek͈i nakɨne kʰə kɨmpaŋ nal t͈ɛn
[7]
ə
Yeah.
ə ə əŋ
[8]
ə əŋ
[9]
Have you ever seen piglets getting born? When they drop out, one by one?
kə nɨ tʷet͡ɕisʰek͈i nan kə pa pan pokɨlpokɨl nal t͈ɛ
[10]
tʷet͡ɕisʰek͈i nan pa pan pokɨlpokɨl nal t͈ɛ
[11]
pokɨl
One by...
pokɨl pok-
[12]
tʷe- tʷɛat͡ɕisʰek͈i
Have you seen piglets being born?
tʷe- tʷɛat͡ɕisʰek͈i mak sʰek͈i nan kə papan
[13]
tʷɛat͡ɕisʰek͈i mak sʰek͈i nan papan
[14]
kɨɲaŋ hɒk͈ɨlːak hən kən pasʰuta
I just saw the little ones.
kɨɲaŋ hɒk͈ɨlːak hən kən pasʰuta
[15]
t͡ɕ͈ɛt͈ɨk-
When they are tiny, just born, when they are suckling haging on their mother's udder.
t͡ɕ͈ɛt͈ɨk- t͡ɕ͈ɛk͈ɨlːak həl t͈e kɨmpaŋ nan kəsʰtəl kiɲaŋ mak emi mak t͡ɕəsʰ məkɨməŋ mak p͈ɛsʰteki mak tolat͡ɕiəŋ hənɨn kə
[16]
t͡ɕ͈ɛk͈ɨlːak həl t͈e kɨmpaŋ nan kəsʰtəl
[17]
ə ə kiɲaŋ mak əŋ emi
Yeah.
ə ə əŋ
[18]
mak t͡ɕəsʰ məkɨməŋ mak p͈ɛsʰteki mak tola t͡ɕiəŋ
[19]
kɨkə hənɨn
That, that.
****
[20]
kɨkə
[21]
ɨŋ
Yeah.
ɨŋ
[22]
kənan kɨt͈ekinɨn t͡ɕ͈ok͈olːak hət͡ɕuke tʷet͡ɕi kaŋat͡ɕi sʰek͈ikət͡ɕ͈i t͡ɕ͈oman hən ke
So then they are tiny, like little puppies.
kənan kɨt͈ekinɨn t͡ɕ͈ok͈olːak hət͡ɕuke tʷet͡ɕi kaŋat͡ɕi sʰek͈ikət͡ɕ͈i t͡ɕ͈oman hən ke
[23]
t͡ɕ͈oman
Tiny.
t͡ɕ͈oman hən
[24]
kəm it͡ɕe kɨe t͡ɕ͈ok͈ɨm
So with that, you know in the past,
kəm it͡ɕe kɨe t͡ɕ͈ok͈ɨm jesʰnalenɨní
[25]
t͡ɕ͈ok͈ɨm jesʰnalenɨní
[26]
jot͡ɕɛ josʰ jot͡ɕɨmɨn ilən t͡ɕip t͡ɕisʰin tinɨn it͡ɕe tosʰ tʷeat͡ɕi tʰoŋsʰe hekɨne ant͡ɕilːwamsʰt͡ɕanhə tʰoŋsʰi
nowadays they don't have the 'thongse/tʰoŋsʰe/통세' (pig stalls), right?
jot͡ɕɛ josʰ- jot͡ɕɨmɨn ilən t͡ɕip t͡ɕisʰintinɨn it͡ɕe tosʰ- tʷeat͡ɕi tʰoŋsʰe hekɨne ant͡ɕilːwamsʰt͡ɕanhə tʰoŋsʰi
[27]
kənti enːale t͡ɕʰokat͡ɕip həl t͈en ta isʰəsʰt͡ɕuke
But back in the days with our thatched-roof houses, they were everywhere.
kənti enːale t͡ɕʰokat͡ɕip həl t͈en ta isʰəsʰt͡ɕuke
[28]
tʰoŋsʰika ta isʰəsʰə kɨti kakɨneŋa mak pʲəntu pokokːí
Every house had one, you would go there to do your business, you know.
kɨ tʰoŋsʰika ta isʰəsʰə kɨti kakɨneŋa mak kɨ pʲəntu pokokːí
[29]
ᵻ̃
Yeah.
ᵻ̃
[30]
kɨmɨn mak
Well then the pigs would eat that, you know.
kɨmɨn mak tʷet͡ɕi məkkuk he nasʰieke
[31]
tʷet͡ɕi məkkuk he nasʰieke
[32]
ᵻ̃
Yeah.
ᵻ̃
[33]
kəŋ
So then, when you keep them like that,
kəŋ həməŋ t͡ɕilːɨl t͈emɨn it͡ɕe tʷet͡ɕikaí
[34]
həməŋ t͡ɕilːɨl t͈emɨn it͡ɕe tʷet͡ɕikaí
[35]
iti iti t͡ɕə nukeku t͡ɕə
now who was that,
iti iti t͡ɕə nukeku t͡ɕə
[36]
jo joti kaŋat͡ɕi int͡ɕike jo apʰ t͡ɕipe kaŋat͡ɕi isʰt͡ɕi
here wasn't there a dog in that house where you passed?
jo joti kaŋat͡ɕi int͡ɕike jo apʰ t͡ɕipe kaŋat͡ɕi isʰt͡ɕi aɲənia
[37]
ɨm ɨm ɨɨɨm
Yes, yes.
ɨm ɨm ɨɨɨm
[38]
ɨɨɨm
[39]
kɨmans͈ikɨn kʰə kamɨní
When they get about that big,
kɨmans͈ikɨn kʰə kamɨní
[40]
t͡ɕalisʰtosʰekien konta i t͡ɕalisʰmeka pəsʰən t͡ɕ͈om
you call them that way, when they take off their 't͡ɕalisʰme/jalisme/자릿메'.
t͡ɕalisʰtosʰekien konta i t͡ɕalisʰmeka pəsʰən t͡ɕ͈om kʰ-
[41]
kʰɨkika t͡ɕ͈ok͈olːak hən pəsʰə nan t͡ɕ͈okɨm t͡ɕuŋsʰtosʰekika tʷesʰten heəŋ
So when they are past that tiny size and have become a middle-sized pig.
kʰɨkika t͡ɕ͈ok͈olːak hən kə pəsʰə nan t͡ɕ͈okɨm t͡ɕuŋsʰtosʰekika tʷesʰten heəŋ
[42]
əiku t͡ɕalisʰtosʰe- t͡ɕalisʰme pəsʰən t͡ɕalisʰtosʰeki
"Oh, it's shed off that 't͡ɕalisʰme/jalisme/자릿메', it's a 't͡ɕalisʰtosʰeki/jalittoseki/자릿도세기'."
əiku t͡ɕalisʰtosʰe- t͡ɕalisʰme pəsʰən t͡ɕalisʰtosʰeki
[43]
kɨnti t͡ɕalisʰme me pəsʰən
But, so you say 'shed off the 't͡ɕalisʰme/jalisme/자릿메''?
kɨnti t͡ɕalisʰme me pəsʰən
[44]
t͡ɕalisʰme pəsʰən
Yes, you 'shed off the 't͡ɕalisʰme/jalisme/자릿메' '.
t͡ɕalisʰme pəsʰən
[45]
t͡ɕalisʰme
't͡ɕalisʰme/jalisme/자릿메'?
****
[46]
t͡ɕalisʰme pəsʰəne
It 'shed off the 't͡ɕalisʰme/jalisme/자릿메' ', the piglet.
t͡ɕalisʰme pəsʰəne tosʰekika
[47]
t͡ɕalisʰmeka tosʰekika mʷisʰikəmas͈ɨm
What is that 't͡ɕalisʰme/jalisme/자릿메'?
t͡ɕalisʰmeka mʷisʰikəmas͈ɨm
[48]
t͡ɕalisʰmeen
't͡ɕalisʰme/jalisme/자릿메' means that the piglet is growing to become a more middle-sized pig.
t͡ɕalisʰmeen hən kən t͡ɕ͈omːí t͡ɕuŋkan t͡ɕʰiki kanten hənɨn kə
[49]
hən kən t͡ɕ͈omːí t͡ɕuŋkan t͡ɕʰiki kanten hənɨn
[50]
əlin kəsʰi pəsʰə t͡ɕiəsʰten hənɨn mal it͡ɕuke
It means it shed off the 'young appearance'.
kə əlin kəsʰi pəsʰə t͡ɕiəsʰten hənɨn mal it͡ɕuke
[51]
ə- əlin kənɨn it͡ɕen nəmə kako t͡ɕ͈om kʰɨka- kʰəsʰten hənɨn sʰoli
It means that the 'piglet period' has passed for them, and they got a little bigger now.
ə- əlin kənɨn it͡ɕen nəmə kako t͡ɕ͈om kʰɨka- kʰəsʰten hənɨn sʰoli
[52]
kenan
So if it was a human, like, a little child?
kenan inkan aimɨn hɒs͈əl jɒk- jɒka nan kə?
[53]
inkan aimɨn hɒs͈əl jɒk-
[54]
hɒs͈əl jɒka kʰɨnː nan ai jɒkɨn ɛki
Yes, a more mature child.
hɒs͈əl kʰɨnː ai jɒkɨn ɛki
[55]
kenan
So,
kenan
[56]
t͡ɕ͈ə hɒn
Like a two, or three-year old child.
t͡ɕ͈ə hɒn tu- tu- tu sʰɒl sʰe sʰɒl tʷen ɛkikət͡ɕʰiluk
[57]
tu sʰɒl sʰe sʰɒl tʷen ɛkikət͡ɕʰiluk
[58]
kenan
So a piglet that has shed off its 't͡ɕalisʰme/jalisme/자릿메'...
kenan t͡ɕalisʰme pəsʰɨn
[59]
it͡ɕen t͡ɕalisʰme
Now,
it͡ɕen
[60]
t͡ɕalisʰ- t͡ɕalisʰmetosʰeki- t͡ɕalisʰme
"like a piglet that has shed off its 't͡ɕalisʰme/jalisme/자릿메' with that smooth skin, it's pretty, isn't it?", you can say.
t͡ɕalisʰ- t͡ɕalisʰmetosʰeki- t͡ɕalisʰme pəsʰin tosʰekikət͡ɕʰi ment͈ɨlːak hən ke koptaí
[61]
t͡ɕalisʰme pəsʰin tosʰekikət͡ɕʰi ment͈ɨlːak hən ke koptaí
[62]
əː kʲəŋ kɒtnɨn
Ah this is how you say it?
əː kʲəŋ kɒtnɨn kə
[63]
kenti
But how,
kenti ət͈əŋ
[64]
ahahaha kəŋhəko
Hahaha, and,
ahahaha kəŋhəko
[65]
kenti musʰa t͡ɕalisʰme pəsʰin tosʰekika mentɨlːak heə
But why is a piglet that has shed off its 't͡ɕalisʰme/jalisme/자릿메' smooth?
kenti musʰa t͡ɕalisʰme pəsʰin tosʰekika mentɨlːak heə
[66]
kɨɲaŋí əlil t͈e potan
Well, you know, rather than when it's young,
kɨɲaŋí kɨ əlil t͈e potan int͡ɕe
[67]
t͡ɕuŋkan t͡ɕʰiki tʷeəŋ t͡ɕ͈ok͈om a- ɛkitəl kʰə kamin ep͈ə t͡ɕitɨsʰ mak
you know like when it gets middle-sized and when children get prettier when they grow,
t͡ɕuŋkan t͡ɕʰiki tʷeəŋ t͡ɕ͈ok͈om a- ɛkitəl kʰə kamin ep͈ə t͡ɕitɨsʰ mak
[68]
pit͡ɕakpit͡ɕak usʰiməŋ jep͈ə t͡ɕit͡ɕi aɲəniake
you know they grow prettier, smiling all the time, right?
pit͡ɕakpit͡ɕak usʰiməŋ jep͈ə t͡ɕit͡ɕi aɲəniake
[69]
ɨɨm
Yeah.
ɨɨm
[70]
kɨmɨn
Well then, pigs too, their fur gets all smooth and the black thingies become pretty.
kɨmɨn int͡ɕe tʷeat͡ɕitu kɨ tʰəltu mak mentɨlːak həku mak sʰɛkʰamaŋ hən ke mak kopt͡ɕuke
[71]
int͡ɕe tʷeat͡ɕitu tʰəltu mak mentɨlːak həku mak sʰɛkʰamaŋ hən ke mak kopt͡ɕuke
[72]
kəmɨn it͡ɕen t͡ɕali- t͡ɕalisʰme pəsʰinɨn tosʰekikət͡ɕ͈i i ɛkitu
Then you say that this child, like a piglet that has shed off its 't͡ɕalisʰme/jalisme/자릿메',
kəmɨn it͡ɕen t͡ɕali- t͡ɕalisʰme pəsʰinɨn tosʰekikət͡ɕ͈i i ɛkitu
[73]
eiku ment͈ɨlːak hən ke k͈optak he kamsʰt͡ɕə t͡ɕalisʰme pəsʰən
"Oh this smooth thingy, it shed off its 't͡ɕalisʰme/jalisme/자릿메', it's getting prettier."
eiku ment͈ɨlːak hən ke k͈optak he kamsʰt͡ɕə t͡ɕalisʰme pəsʰən
[74]
kʲəŋ
So you say it that way?
kʲəŋ kɒtnɨn kək͈ʷa
[75]
kɒtnɨn
[76]
ᵻ̃ kɨt͡ɕʰiluk keŋ mak
Yes, this is how the old people say it.
ᵻ̃ kɨt͡ɕʰiluk keŋ mak halmaŋtəli kʲəŋ kɒlt͡ɕuke
[77]
mak halmaŋtəli kʲəŋ kɒlt͡ɕuke
[78]
kənan kʲəŋ kɒnan
So when you say it this way,
kənan kʲəŋ kɒnan
[79]
t͡ɕəɲːə mʷisʰikə mʷisʰin malsʰantito ala
[younger] people don't have a clue of what you're talking about and...
t͡ɕəɲːə mʷisʰikə mʷisʰin malsʰantito ala t͡ɕit͡ɕi mosʰ heən
[80]
kənan uli sʰont͡ɕinɨní t͡ɕit͡ɕip͈ai sʰont͡ɕi int͡ɕe jəljəsʰəsʰ
So our grandchild, a girl, she's sixteen now, so,
kənan uli sʰont͡ɕinɨní t͡ɕit͡ɕip͈ai sʰont͡ɕi int͡ɕe jəljəsʰəsʰ it͡ɕuke hənane
[81]
sʰont͡ɕi int͡ɕe jəljəsʰəsʰ it͡ɕuke hənane
[82]
eiku əlkuli pʰipuka mentɨlːak heŋɨne konan hənan
"Oh your face, the skin is so smooth and beautiful", I say,
eiku əlkuli pʰipuka mentɨlːak heŋɨne konan hənan
[83]
əmːa ment͈ɨlːaki msʰikə
"Mum, what does that [word for smooth] mean?"
əmːa ment͈ɨlːaki msʰikə
[84]
mentɨlːak həten han malto
So not even the word for 'smooth' she knows?
kə mentɨlːak həten han malto molːa
[85]
ment͈ɨlːak hənɨn
I said "ment͈ɨlːak/멘뜰락, that means that your skin is beautiful", so
ment͈ɨlːak hənɨn kə ment͈ɨlːak hən kən ke jəŋ i pʰipuka jep͈ɨten hənɨn mal hənane it͡ɕe
[86]
hənɨn ment͈ɨlːak hən kən ke jəŋ i pʰipuka jep͈ɨten hənɨn
[87]
əmːa t͡ɕal- musʰin mal t͡ɕalisʰme pəsʰinɨn musʰin sʰoli
she said "mum, what does that mean? What does it mean, 'it shed off its 't͡ɕalisʰme/jalisme/자릿메' "?
əmːa t͡ɕal- kə musʰin mal t͡ɕalisʰme pəsʰinɨn kə musʰin sʰoli
[88]
molːɨt͡ɕuke kəŋ hənane
Well of course she doesn't understand, so,
molːɨt͡ɕuke kəŋ hənane
[89]
nin aiku jain t͡ɕal alan molːɨnɨn əsʰi
when it comes to you, "wow, this kid here, there's nothing he doesn't know",
nin aiku jain t͡ɕal alan molːɨnɨn kə əsʰi
[90]
t͡ɕə- t͡ɕet͡ɕu sʰatʰuli pewa nonan i
"since he's learnt so much Jejuan",
t͡ɕə- t͡ɕet͡ɕu sʰatʰuli pewa nonan i
[91]
molːɨn əsʰi t͡ɕal anten həməŋ mak kəŋ heŋ isʰəsʰie
"he knows it so well", I said.
molːɨn kə əsʰi t͡ɕal anten həməŋ mak kəŋ heŋ isʰəsʰie
[92]
kaiant͈i kola t͡ɕupsʰəke malto
So my daughter said, "tell him that, what you just said!"
kaiant͈i kola t͡ɕupsʰəke kɨ malto
[93]
hahaha
Hahaha.
hahaha
[94]
kənan t͡ɕal pewasʰinke
So I learnt it well then!
kənan t͡ɕal pewasʰinke
[95]
me ulin jesʰnalput͈ə tɨltaŋ halmaŋtəlːap͈i tɨltaŋ
Well this is what we've grown up hearing so often from old people!
me ulin jesʰnalput͈ə kɨ tɨltaŋ halmaŋtəlːap͈i tɨltaŋ kɨ pət͡ɕʰin mal inan
[96]
ani pət͡ɕʰin mal inan
No, I mean myself.
ani kə namas͈ɨm
[97]
namas͈ɨm
[98]
t͡ɕal
I think I learnt it quite well.
t͡ɕal peun kə talma
[99]
<<bc>ɨm> peun
Yeah...
ɨm
[100]
talma

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