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| Speaker age | 87 |
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| Speaker sex | m |
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****
Well
now,
I'm
about
****
to
relate
to
you
the
whole
of
my
life
****
and
I
can
assure
you
****
that
it
will
be
a
true
one.
****
I
was
born
at
Benenden,
Standen
Street,
in
the
old
****
My
father,
he
worked
under
the
Wesley
family
for
forty-seven
****
years
and
he
never
had
a
****
His
job
was
groom
****
but
like
all
other
men
on
these
farms,
you
kept
getting
it
****
piled
on
to
you
****
and
finally
he
had
to
look
after
the
cows,
pigs,
and
everything
else,
****
and
****
soon
as
ever
I
got
just
big
enough
****
I
had
to
go
over
there
****
and
****
help
him,
Saturdays
****
and
whenever
I
was
at
home.
****
And
uh,
it
was
all
jolly
hard
work,
****
I
could
never
carry
a
full
bucket
of
water
****
because
I
wadn't
big
enough.
****
But
however,
I
used
to
struggle
in
to
the
old
cows
and
bullocks
****
and
****
help
Father
****
all
I
could,
****
****
and
****
help
him
****
cut
up
the
chaff
with
an
old
horse
bi
the
name
of
Boxer,
****
and
finally
it
got
****
that
I
got
just
man
enough
****
to
be
houseboy.
****
Then
I
had
to
go
round
****
and
****
help
with
the
house,
****
and
****
chop
up
the
wood
and
such
like,
****
and
****
do
all
odd
jobs,
****
run
errands,
****
and
****
post
the
letters,
****
and
sometimes
****
go
and
meet
the
postman.
****
Well
****
as
time
went
on,
****
I
got
little
better
man,
****
and
they
wanted
a
carter
****
boy
to
go
with
the
old
carter
and
the
****
horses,
so
they
put
me
along
with
****
I
didn't
want
the
job,
****
I
told
Father
****
I
didn't
want
the
carter
****
He
said,
****
You
go
and
do
****
as
you're
told.
****
And
in
them
days
it
was
discipline,
no
back
****
answers,
you
had
to
****
do
as
you
was
****
Anyhow,
I
went
along
with
this
old
man,
old
Mr
****
Barnes,
he
was
a
nice
old
****
never
heard
that
man
****
swear
****
in
my
life,
I
didn't,
****
and
I
never
known
him
****
to
grumble.
****
If
there
was
anything
****
you
didn't
do
quite
right,
****
he'd
always
got
patience
enough
****
to
tell
you
about
it.
****
Used
to
have
a
team
of
four
great
horses
****
and
one
of'em
was
very
bad
****
tempered,
oh
it
was
old
****
Boxer,
he'd
bite
****
you,
he
bit
me
several
****
He'd
come
right
at
you,
he
would,
with
his
mouth
wide
open,
****
and
he'd
have
you
****
if
you
didn't
get
out
of
the
way
pretty
quick.
****
But
anyhow,
I
got
wide-o
to
him,
****
I
hit
him
one
day
****
when
he
come
to
me,
****
I
met
him
****
and
I
hit
him
right
up
the
face
with
the
butt
of
the
whip.
****
He
didn't
come
for
me
anymore.
****
But
anyhow,
we
used
to
have
to
go
to
work
****
and
****
do
the
ploughing
with'em,
one
in
front
of
the
other
in
them
days,
****
and
the
old
mare
on
the
front,
her
name
was
Violet,
I
remember,
****
she
was
a
rat-tailed
old
mare,
****
she
hadn't
got
any
hair
on
her
tail,
only
on
the
end,
****
and
her
name
was
Violet,
****
and
that
old
mare,
she
knew
far
more
about
it
****
than
what
I
knew.
****
I
used
to
have
to
hold
the
whip
both
hands
****
if
the
wind
blowed
****
to
keep
it
upright,
this
great
long
old
whip,
ten
foot
long.
****
But
anyhow,
I
used
to
have
to
drive
these
horses,
****
and
****
when
they
got
out
at
the
end,
****
'course
that
old
mare
knew
her
job,
****
she
used
to
go
out
****
and
****
come
back
round
again
****
and
****
off
back
up
the
furrow
again.
****
And
we
used
to
have
to
go
down
to
a,
a
field,
down
the
lower
end
of
the
farm.
****
There
was
seven
acres
in
it,
****
and
we'd
got
to
plough
that
in
six
days.
****
That
had
to
be
done
by
Saturday
****
We
used
to
get
out
at
seven
o'clock
in
the
morning,
****
and
****
unyoke
at
four
in
the
afternoon.
****
And
then
****
carry
on
****
and
****
clean'em,
****
groom'em,
****
cut
chaff
and
various
jobs,
till
tea
****
And
then
he
would
stop
there
till
six
o'clock
****
and
****
see
to'em,
****
then
I
had
to
go
back
****
and
****
stop
there
with'im
till
eight
o'clock,
****
finish
up
****
what
jobs
there
was,
****
and
****
feed'em
****
and
****
water'em,
****
and
****
put
their
beds
down
and
so
on
for
the
night.
****
And
I
had
to
be
up
there--
up
again
half
past
six
the
next
morning,
ready
for
the
next
day's
work.
****
I
know
****
sometimes
when
hop
picking
time,
they
used
to
grow
a
lot
of
hops
in
****
and
uh,
it
was
almost
a
constant
job
to
and
fro
to
Cranbrook
****
We
used
to
start
off
at
midnight,
****
and
****
get
down
in
the
station
****
so
as
****
to
be
first,
or
amongst
the
first,
****
and
we
was
generally
the
first
one
down
there.
****
I
put
the
horses'
nose
bag
on
down
in
Cranbrook
station
at
two
o'clock
in
****
And
'course
you
was
the
first
one
****
to
get
unloaded,
****
or
else
that
meant
****
staying
about
there
perhaps
till
seven
o'clock
that
night.
****
I've
seen
hops
all
the
way
from
the
station
right
up
to
the
old
Hartley
pub
there,
one
load
behind
the
****
and
some
of'em,
that
was
pretty
late
in
the
evening
****
before
they
got
away,
****
but
we
used
to
get
back
home
again.
****
And
I
remember
****
once
****
when
we
went
home,
****
he
said,
well
now,
****
he
said,
****
when
you've
had
a
bit
to
eat,
****
he
said,
****
you'd
better
go
out
to
the
forest
and
green
****
and
****
get
a
load
of
brush
for
the
hop
****
That
was
for
their
fires.
****
So
we
had
to
go
out
to
the
forest
and
green
there
and,
up
in
the
wood,
****
and
****
get
five
hundred
of
****
And
then
we
had
to
come
home
****
and
****
unload
them.
****
He'd
tell
you
****
there
was
a
load
of
hops
ready
for
you
****
to
go
away
with
****
the
next
morning.
****
That
meant
****
start
tw--,
by
twelve
o'clock
again
at
****
And
that's
****
how
that
used
to
go
on
all
through
the
hop
****
I
never
saw
any
money
for
it.
****
I
worked
hard
and
long
days
at
home,
****
but
I
never
saw
any
money.
****
Well
****
as
time
went
on
****
I
got
a
bit
dissatisfied.
****
My
chums,
they'd
always
got
a
few
shillings
****
when
they
went
out,
****
they'd
always
got
something
****
to
spend,
****
but
I
hadn't,
****
****
and
I
told
my
mother,
****
I
said,
****
I
think
****
I'd
ought
to
have
a
little
money,
****
I
said,
****
All
my
pals
have
got
some.
****
And
uh,
Oh,
she
said,
****
You
must
remember
****
where
your
bread's
a-buttered,
****
she
said,
****
You
can't
have
it,
****
she
said,
****
We
can't
afford
it,
****
she
said,
****
Probably
they're
better
off
****
than
we
are,
****
****
but
they
wadn't,
****
you
know,
****
they
didn't
get
any
more
money
****
than
my
father
did,
****
but...
****
Anyhow,
I
could
never
get
any
money
out
of
her.
****
If
there
was
a
few
coppers
****
we'd
always've
a
lot
of
rankling
about
it,
****
and
one
day
I
got
a
bit
cheeky,
****
something
went
wrong
with
my
employer
and
me
****
and
he
told
me
****
I'd
better
find
a
fresh
job.
****
And
that
was
the
best
thing
****
that
****
ever
happened
to
me
in
my
life.
****
And
Father,
he
come
home,
****
and
he
grumbled
****
and
****
groused
at
me
rather
about
it,
****
but
my
brother
Bob,
he
come
down
a
few
nights
afterwards
****
and
he
said
****
he'd
heard
of
a
job
at
Cranbrook
under
Mr
Chopman,
carter
boy
****
So
that's
****
where
I
went
****
and
I
lodged
wi--
'long
with
Mr
Rickman
and
****
his
wife,
he
****
And
eh,
I
had
ten
bob
a
week,
****
and
eh,
I
paid
them
seven
and
sixpence
for
my
lodgings.
****
That
left
me
half
a
crown
****
to
clothe
myself
****
and
****
find
my
boots
and
one
thing
and
the
other.
****
However,
that
went
on
for
some
time,
****
and
****
when
I
went
away,
****
my
old
mother,
she
never
put
much
in
my
clothes
****
Well
I
don't
suppose
****
she'd
got
the
money
****
to
get
it,
****
or
I
remember
****
I
never
had
much.
****
But
anyhow
eh,
my
boots,
they
begun
****
to
get
pretty
dilapidated,
****
and
he
said
to
me,
****
Well,
I
don't
know,
Boy,
****
he
said,
****
You
want
a
new
pair
of
boots?
****
I
said,
****
Yes,
I
keep
getting
wet
foot.
****
He
said,
****
You'd
better
go
down
to
Marchant
****
that
was
a
shop
down
in
Cranbrook,
****
and
he
said,
****
That's
****
where
I
always
have
my
clothes,
****
So
you
go
down
there
****
and,
and
****
tell'im
****
you
want
a
new
pair
of
boots.
****
He
said,
****
You
give'im
****
what
money
you've
got,
****
he
said,
****
and
****
tell'im
****
you'll
pay
the
rest
****
when
you've
saved
it
up.
****
I
went
down
there
****
and
I
asked
him
for
this
pair
of
boots,
****
and
he
wouldn't
hear
of
it.
****
Well
I
went
back
home
again,
****
up
to
where
I
lodged,
****
and
he
said,
****
What's
the
matter
with
you,
boy?
****
I
said,
****
Well
he
wouldn't
let
me
****
have
them
boots,
****
I
said,
****
I
be
afraid
****
I'll
have
to
manage
****
with
what
I
got.
****
He
said,
****
You
won't,
****
you
know,
****
he
said.
****
He
put
on
his
jacket,
****
Where's
my
jacket,
Mother,
****
he
said.
****
And
he
put
on
his
jacket,
****
he
went
down
there,
****
he
come
back
with
them
boots.
****
He
said,
****
If
that
man
hadn't'a
let
you
****
had
them
boots,
****
he
said,
****
I'd'a
never
bought
nothing
else
off
him.
****
So
uh
that
went
on,
****
and
****
as
time
went
on,
****
'course
I
didn't
spend
anything
then
much,
****
I
used
to
keep
putting
this
half
a
crown
away
****
till
I
got
a
few
shillings
together
****
to
buy
****
what
little
bits
I
wanted.
****
But
I
was
a
long
time,
you
know,
****
getting
myself
****
clothed
up.
****
And
of
course
mi
shirts
and
that,
they
wore
****
and,
the
landlady,
she
was
good
enough,
****
used
to
wash'em
****
and
****
iron'em
****
and
****
get'em
all
ready
for
me,
****
they,
they
was
more
or
less
like
a
father
and
mother
to
me.
****
Well
that
man,
he
was
a
marvellous
chap,
****
great
big
fellow
he
was.
****
And
he
told
me
****
that
during
his
young
days,
****
he
said,
****
We
was
like
you,
****
he
said,
****
We
didn't
have
a
bit
more
than
enough.
****
He
said,
****
I
remember
****
one
Sunday
****
morning,
he
****
said,
Laying
****
a-bed,
he
****
said,
Mother
wouldn't
let
****
us
get
****
She
told
us
****
to
lay
there
****
till
she'd
got
the
breakfast
ready.
****
He
said,
****
And
****
when
we
did
get
up
****
and
****
went
down
to
our
breakfast,
****
he
said,
****
It
was
a,
a
suet
pudding
and
a
****
He
said,
****
That
was
our
breakfast,
****
he
said,
****
That's
all
the
grub
****
there
was
in
the
house.
****
However,
he
said,
****
As
time
went
on,
****
he
said,
****
We
grabbled
about
****
and
one
went
away
from
home
****
and
****
got
a
job
****
and
****
went
away,
and
another
one,
****
he
said,
****
And
we
got
through
life
somehow.
****
But
that
just
tells
you
****
how
hard
that
life
was
in
those
days.
****
And
that
man,
****
after
****
living
like
that,
****
he
grew
into
a
man
strong
enough
and
big
enough
****
that
he
would
carry
a
barrel
of
brimstone,
****
he'd
take
that
out
of
the
waggon
****
and
****
carried
it
in
the
oast-house,
****
and
that
weighed
four
hundredweight.
****
But
he
was
a
nice
chap.
****
I
worked
with
him
****
until
finally
he,
ehm,
carried
on,
****
I
remember
once,
well
we'd
always
got
one
mare
there
****
that
****
used
to
breed
a
foal
every
year.
****
Well
of
course
the
time
come
along
****
when
she'd
got
to
rest,
****
and
eh,
I,
eh,
was
set
****
to
work
with
them
two
old
oxen.
****
I
didn't
know
nothing
about'em,
****
I'd
been
used
to
bullocks
and
that
all
my
life,
****
I
wadn't
afraid
of'em,
****
but
eh
I
didn't
know
nothing
****
what
****
to
say
to'em
****
or
****
do
or
anything,
****
and
Mr
Chopman
****
said,
You'd
better
go
and
get
them
old
****
oxen
first,
****
he
said,
You
go
round
****
to
George
****
Head,
he
said,
****
He'll
****
tell
you
how
****
He
was
stockman,
****
he
used
to
work'em
sometimes.
****
Well
I
went
round
the
buildings
****
and
****
found
him
****
and
we
went
out
into
the
orchard,
****
and
****
soon
as
we
went
in
the
gate
****
the
old
bullocks,
they
begun
****
to
saunter
away
up
towards
us,
****
and
he
put
the
yoke
on
one
of'em,
****
that
was
old
Winch,
the
one
****
that
****
worked
the
off-side,
****
and
he
held
the
end
up
****
and
****
pulled
the
bow
out,
****
and
Winder,
he
come
sauntering
up
under
the
yoke,
****
and
he
yoked
him
up.
****
There,
he
said,
****
That's
****
how
you
do
that
job.
****
He
said,
****
I
never
show
anybody
anything,
only
once.
****
I
said,
Alright.
****
So
he
had
the
old
bullocks
out,
****
and
he
had'em
up
to
the
cart,
****
and
they
walked
round,
one
of
them
did,
the
off-bullock,
****
and
****
stepped
over
the
nib
****
and
they
stood
theirselves
in
position
****
and
he
went
up
between'em
****
and
****
lifted
the
old
pole
up
****
and
****
put
the
plug
in.
****
Now,
he
said,
****
there's
one
thing
****
you
want
****
to
remember,
****
he
said,
****
When
you
put
that
plug
in,
****
he
said,
****
tie
it
in
with
that
bit
of
thong,
****
he
said,
****
'Cause
that
might
drop
out.
****
However,
that
went
on,
****
and
I
had
these
old
bullocks,
****
I
had
to
go
in
the
yard
with
a
lot
of
cart,
with
some
litter
in
there,
you
know,
****
when
they
got
dirty,
****
straw
and
one
thing
and
the
other,
and...
****
I
know
****
when
I
first
went
****
to
go
through
the
gate
****
I
got
up
against
the
post.
****
I
assumed
****
as
if
I
wanted
****
to
get
hold
of'em
****
like
I
did
****
with
the
horses,
****
but
that
didn't
work.
****
So
after
that
I
walked
through
myself
****
and
they
used
to
come
through
alright,
****
they
would
never
to--
run
into
****
However,
I
carried
on
with
these
old
oxen,
****
and
then
they'd
got
an
old
horse
bi
the
name
of
Captain,
****
he
was
very
very
deaf,
****
and
I
used
to
dress
all
the
corn,
****
I
used
to
have
the
old
horse
****
hooked
on
in
front
of'em
****
and
a
long
pole
on
him
****
to
lead'im,
****
to
guide
him,
****
and
I
had
these
two
old
oxen
on
the
roll,
and
the
dredge
****
coming
along
behind,
****
I
used
to
dress
all
the
corn
like
that.
****
Marvellous
old
things
****
to
work
with.
****
Now
I
carried
on
there
till
such
times
****
that
they
took
over
Sissinghurst
Castle
and
****
And
they
wanted
me
****
to
go
down
there
with'em.
****
So
I
went
down
there
****
and
****
lodged
with
one
of
the
workmen
down
there,
****
and
I
carried
on
there
****
till
finally
I
thought
to
myself,
****
well
I'll
get
married
****
and
****
settle
myself
down.
****
So
I
was
twenty-two
years
of
age
then,
****
and
uh
he
said
to
me,
****
well,
I
told
him
****
I
was
gonna
get
married,
****
and
he
said,
Well,
****
he
said,
****
There's
nowhere
for
you
****
to
live,
****
he
said,
****
Only
in
the
old
tower.
****
Well,
I
said,
****
That'd
be
alright
****
I
think.
****
Well,
he
said,
****
I'll
have
it
all
****
done
out
for
you.
****
That
was
in
the
old
tower
at
Sissinghurst
Castle
****
So
he
had
it
all
****
done
out
****
and
that
was
my
first
home.
In
a
castle.
****
And
I
paid
a
shilling
a
week
rent.
****
'Tidn't
everybody
in
my
circumstances
has
lived
in
a
castle
for
a
shilling
a
week,
is
****
However,
that
went
on
for
some
time,
****
and
finally
there
was
all
sorts
of
tales
about
it,
****
and
my
first
wife,
she
got
pretty
nervous
about
it,
****
and
uh,
we'd
got
a
little
dog,
****
I
think
****
that
heaped
the
coals
on
the
fire.
****
One
night
we
lost
this
little
dog,
****
and
all
of
a
sudden
I
said
to
her,
****
I
said,
****
Well
where's
Stumpy?
****
Said
****
she
didn't
know.
****
Well,
I
said,
****
She
must
be
here
somewhere,
****
I
said,
****
she
couldn't
have
gone
out,
****
'cause
the
door
was
shut.
****
Hunted
all
round,
****
finally
I
went
right
up
to
the
top
in
our
bedroom,
****
and
I
met
that
little
dog
****
coming
down.
****
That
had
got
down,
oh
six
or
seven
steps
perhaps,
from
the
top,
or
a
little
further,
****
and
she
was
standing
there
****
shivering
****
and
****
shaking,
****
foaming
at
the
mouth,
****
she
seemed
frightened
out
of
her
life.
****
Well
I
picked
her
up
in
mi
arms
****
and
****
stroked
her
****
and
****
asked
her
****
what
was
the
matter
****
and
****
brought
her
down.
****
And
uh,
****
after
I
got
her
down,
you
know,
****
she
licked
herself
and
that,
****
and
she
seemed
to
come
round
alright,
****
now,
****
whether
that
dog
saw
anything
or
whatnot
****
I
don't
know.
****
But
I
have
heard
tales
since
****
that,
a
dog
can
always
see
these
things
****
where
a
human
being
can't.
****
****
But
anyhow,
finally
we
came
away
from
there
****
and
that
was
it.
****
And
here
I
am
now,
back
more
or
less
on
my
own
ground,
not
far
from
Benenden,
****
and
I'm
enjoying
life
very
well
up
to
the
present.
****
I
feel
well
****
and
I
keep
carrying
on.
****
My
eighty-seventh
birthday'll
fall
next
October,
****
and
up
till
last
summer
I
worked
twenty
yard
of
allotment,
****
and
I
was
pretty
fond
of
my
garden,
****
but
I
think
****
I
shall
give
it
up
now,
****
have
a
rest,
****
let
somebody
else
****
carry
on.
[INTERVIEWER]
****
Was
it
more
difficult
****
working
with
oxen
****
than
with
horses?
****
Well
no,
I
don't
think
****
it
was.
****
For
one
thing,
they
were
more
obedient
than
a
horse.
****
If
you
said
anything
to'em
****
they
would
respond.
****
A
horse,
sometimes,
they
are
very
self-willed,
****
or
a
lot
of
them
are,
****
although
there
is
some,
****
I've
had
some
horses
almost
like
a
human
being,
****
they
seemed
to
know
pretty
near
as
much
****
as
you
knew
****
yourself.
****
But
a
bullock,
****
if
you,
****
what
I
mean
to
say,
****
treated
him
right,
****
you
didn't
dare
****
be
unkind
to'im,
****
to
make'im
nervous,
****
but
****
if
you
treated'em
right
****
I
always
thought
****
they
was
more
obedient
than
a
horse.
****
'Course
we
always
worked
two
together.
****
And
the
off-bullock
never
only
had
one
syllable
in
his
name.
****
Hence
Winch
and
Winder,
Pink
and
Piny,
such
names
as
that.
[INTERVIEWER]
****
Is
that
so
y--,
they
knew
the
****
difference
if
you
called
****
Called
them.
Yes,
****
and
they
would
always
know
their
place.
****
That
off-bullock,
****
if
you
was
going
to
yoke
them
up,
****
he'd
always
be
the
first
one
****
to
come
to
you,
****
and
his
mate,
he
knew,
****
he
might
be
back
there
amongst
all
the
others,
****
but
he'd
find
his
way
up
there.
****
They
was
mates
together
****
and
that's
****
how
they
always
worked.
****
I
remember
****
once
at
Sissinghurst
****
Castle
ploughing
a
bit
of
ground
down
****
there,
I
had
to
bust
this
piece
of
ground
****
up
for
to
plant
****
and
I
had
one
of
the
old-fashioned
wooden
ploughs,
no
wheels
on
it,
just
the
foot,
****
and
uh
I
had
the
two
old
oxen,
one
bullock
in
the
furrow
and
one
out,
and
the
horses
out
of
the
furrow,
****
they'd
fo--,
walk
****
along
****
and
follow
the
edge
of
that
****
and
I
ploughed
all
that
frog
mead
piece,
oh
several
acres
of
it,
with
two
horses
and
****
Used
to
always
have
the
oxen
behind
on
the
plough,
****
all
****
there
was
in
it
****
you
had
to
give
them
time
****
to
pull
out
at
the
end,
****
because
they
was
a
bit
slow.
[INTERVIEWER]
****
You
ploughed
with
horses
and
oxen
at
the
same
time?
****
Yes.
Yeah.
****
Oh
they
wouldn't
hurt
a
horse,
****
they
wouldn't
gore
him
or
anything
like
that.
****
They'd
walk
along,
****
they
used
to
work
together
alright.
Yeah.
[INTERVIEWER]
****
When
did
you
last
work
with
oxen
on
the
land?
****
Yes.
The
only
trouble
with
oxen
was
in
wet,
****
if
the
land
was
wet.
****
Now
****
where
they
took
their
front
foot
out,
****
they
put
their
hind
foot
in,
****
they
always
do
that,
a
bullock
does,
****
if
he's
walking,
****
if
you
notice,
****
and
of
course
that
trod
the
ground
in
such
holes.
****
We
never
used
to
have
them
on
the
land
****
when
it
was
very
very
wet.
****
We
used
to
have
them
now
****
clearing
the
yards
out,
****
all
the
manure
come
out
of
the
yards
****
after
the
bullocks
had
been
in
there
all
the
winter.
****
[INDISTINCT]
They
would
always
have
****
you
run
on
top
of
their
****
mixon
as
we
used
to
call
****
it,
the
lump,
and
****
eh,
to
keep
it
****
tight
so
that
it
shouldn't
****
And,
eh,
sometimes
****
if
that
was
left
a
day
or
two,
****
when
you
went
up
on
that,
****
they
would
go
right
down
through
it.
****
I've
had
them
old
bullocks
sometimes,
****
one
of'em'd
go
right
down
in
up
to
his
belly.
****
Well
the
only
thing
****
to
do
****
was
****
to
shelve
the
cart
up,
****
take
all
the
weight
off
their
neck
****
and
then
tell
them
****
to
start,
****
and
the
one
****
that
****
was
on
the
top,
****
well
he'd
pull
the
other
one
out.
****
Oh
yeah
they'd
pull
one
another
out.
****
'Course
****
if
you
got
a
horse
down
in,
****
mired
in
like
that,
****
that
was
a
nasty
business.
****
You
had
to
get
his
cart
out
of
the
way
****
and
****
more
or
less
dig
him
out.
Yes.
****
But
they
were
marvellous
farmers,
the
Chopman
****
There
was
a
thousand
acres
of
it
all
told.
****
Used
to
start
off
in
the
morning,
****
you'd
alwa--
we
always
had
to
plough
an
****
it
was
the
stumps
round
the
field,
****
used
to
have
to
plough
from
stump
to
stump.
****
They
used
to
give
you
extra
time
****
to
plough
the
outside.
****
But
we
always
had
to
plough
an
acre.
Seven
inches
deep,
ten
inches
wide.
****
You've
got
to
keep
away
from
the
edge,
****
otherwise
you
wouldn't
get
it,
especially
in
a
short
corner
****
when
you
first
started
perhaps.
****
If
you've
got
the
full
length
of
the
field,
****
then
you
could
go
a
bit
steadier.
Three
horses
abreast.
Yeah.
[INTERVIEWER]
****
How
would
you
do
round
the
outside,
****
did
you,
did
you
dig
round
the
outside
at
all
with
spades?
****
Well
yes,
I,
they
used
to
dig
the
corners
out,
you
know,
****
where
you
couldn't
plough
in
those
days,
****
but
we
used
to
plough
it
all,
most
of
it,
****
keep
going
round
and
round
****
till
you'd
ploughed
it
all
you
see.
Yeah.
****
In
those
days,
well,
a
workman's
wage
was
about
fifteen
bob
a
week,
****
you
got
on
some
farms,
they'd
give
you
fifteen
shillings
a
week,
****
but
more
or
less
a
lot
of
them
only
got
thirteen
shillings
you
know.
****
That
wadn't
a
lot
****
for
a
man
to
keep
his
wife
and
family
on,
was
****
'Course
they
never
paid
any
rent
much,
a
couple
of
bob
perhaps,
eighteen
pence,
a
couple
of
bob,
hm.
[INTERVIEWER]
****
Was
it
slower
****
ploughing
with
oxen
than
with
horses?
****
Well,
I
don't
know.
****
I
wouldn't,
****
I
think
****
I
would
rather
have
a
team
of
oxen
than
horses
****
because
they're
steadier,
****
and
they
always,
uh,
you've
always
got
that
bit
of
a
sway,
****
you
got
used
to
it,
****
and
eh,
well
I
think
****
it
was
easier
really,
****
'cause
you,
you
sort
of
always
knew
****
what
they
was
going
to
do.
****
'Course
a,
a
lot
of
these
properly
worked
horses,
they
never
make
a
mistake,
not
all
day
long,
****
but
I
think
****
I
would
prefer
oxen.
Hm.
****
They're
very
easily
and
quickly
subdued
you
know.
****
If
you
got
a
pair
of
oxen
out,
****
got'em
****
roped
to
a
post
or
something
****
where
you
could
get
hold
of'em
****
and
****
get
the
yoke
on'em,
****
and
then
****
hook'em
on
to
something
heavy
****
that
****
they
couldn't
move,
****
and
****
hook
the
other
old
oxen
on
in
front
of'em,
****
well
you
had
to
more
or
less
drag
them
about,
****
but,
****
if
they
had
a
day
at
that,
****
they
was,
you
know,
pretty
well
cobbled,
****
they,
they
didn't
want
****
to
cut
up
rough
not
much
the
next
day.
****
They
used
to
very
soon
get
out
of
breath
****
and
****
hang
their
old
tongues
out.
****
Sometimes
we've
had'em
****
sulk
****
and
****
lay
down,
****
we
used
to
go
down
to
a
stream
****
if
you
was
anywhere
near
one
****
and
****
get
a
little
old
tin
or
a
bottle
or
something,
drop
of
water
in
it,
****
put
a
few
drops
in
their
ear,
****
they
pretty
soon
jump
up.
****
They
didn't
like
that.
Yeah.
****
They
was
faithful
old
things
though.
****
I
always
liked
them.
****
Only
'course
these
days,
oh,
they
wouldn't,
wouldn't
be
fast
enough,
****
nothing
is
fast
enough
today.
[INTERVIEWER]
****
When
did
you
last
work
with
them
on
the
land?
Pardon?
[INTERVIEWER]
****
How,
when
did
they
disappear
from
the
land?
****
Yeah,
oh
well
now,
I
should
think
****
it
was,
****
I
don't
actually
know,
****
but
I
should
think
****
it
was
at
the
beginning
of
the
last
war,
****
when
these
tractors
begun
****
come
about.
****
That's
****
when
I
think
****
they
was
more
or
less
disarmed.
****
Because
Sissinghurst
Castle,
that
was
the
last
place
down
here
in
the
south
of
****
England
****
that
oxen
was
worked.
[INTERVIEWER]
****
So
you--
****
And
eh,
I
think
****
that
was
about
the
time
****
that
****
they,
you
know,
went
out,
yeah.
****
I've
got
a
photograph
of
them
two
old
oxen
back
there.
****
And
eh,
'course
these
tractors
and
that
pushed
the
horses
and
the
oxen
off
the
farms.
****
Although
at
certain
parts
of
the
country
I
understand
****
that
they
still
work
oxen.
****
I
saw
a
photograph
in
the
paper
some
time
ago
****
where
a
man
was
breaking
two
in
****
to
go
in
a
ploughing
****
And
he
was
driving
them
on
a
line
like
****
we
used
****
to
hold
the
horses.
****
I
often
wonder
****
how
he
got
on
with
it,
****
but
it
was
quite
interesting.
[INTERVIEWER]
****
Did
you
used
to
enter
ploughing
****
matches
when
you
were
working
with
****
Well
we
never,
we
used
to
have
a
bit
of
a
ploughing
match,
****
like,
but
never,
I
never
went
there
with
our
oxen.
****
We
used
to
take'em
down
to
the
horse
show,
a
couple
of
them
for,
just
for
a
bit
of
an
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